1st Gen Campagnolo Record Dual Pivots

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Front and rear, both in decent condition. The first campag dual pivots, that replaced deltas in 1994. They only have "Campagnolo" printed on them, no group name (although the hidden bolt means these are record, as chorus had a visible bolt on the front arm).
One of them (the front if I remember right) has a scratch on top of the arm, but its not too bad or too noticeable. The pad holders are a non-matching pair. Logos are visible but faded. One of the return springs is broken, but I have a new one (not yet fitted). And there is a crack at the end of one arm of each caliper (They still work as they should, I've ridden them with the cracks, not hard though - while probably OK, I don't think I'd fit them to my best bike for a trip to the pyrenees)

Sounds like there's a lot wrong with them, but apart from the cracks, the other things are nothing I wouldn't expect on used parts of this age anyway.

40 GBP posted

thanks!
 

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There was actually a Chorus version with the hidden bolt. However, as you say, these are Record. You can tell by the hex nut at the rear of the main pivot, Chorus versions have a square ended bolt.
 
Chorus dual pivots only ever had visible bolts. Chorus and Record DPs both came out in 94, in that year neither of them had the group name on but the difference was easy to see with the different bolt and outer arm. from 95 onwards record still had a hidden bolt and chorus didn't, but they had the group names printed on them from 95 onwards anyway.
 
foz":16sd65h5 said:
Chorus dual pivots only ever had visible bolts. Chorus and Record DPs both came out in 94, in that year neither of them had the group name on but the difference was easy to see with the different bolt and outer arm. from 95 onwards record still had a hidden bolt and chorus didn't, but they had the group names printed on them from 95 onwards anyway.

In fact Record dropped the hidden bolt for the 95 range for some odd reason but picked it up again in 96 but the hidden bolt was adopted by Chorus in 2001 but didn't have the bearings in the main pivot.

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You got me there! I must admit to not checking catalogues later than about 97 :oops:

in 2001 that would be 10 speed then?
 
foz":23m6qhda said:
You got me there! I must admit to not checking catalogues later than about 97 :oops:

in 2001 that would be 10 speed then?

Yeah, this was from the 2001 10-speed kit.

Sorry, not trying to outfox you, more a shared knowledge thing. I run the above Chorus brakes on my Tecnos but found some Record versions a few weeks back and they have some much nicer finishes, namely the bearings and better finish to smaller parts, might swap them out but keen to keep the bike Chorus for no apparent reason. Record screams 'I'm good at this' whereas Chorus is more 'likes bikes and keen to improve', kind of thing.
 
I don't mind being proved wrong at all - it's the best way to learn new things!

Actually when I think about it, I have a set of those 10 speed chorus calipers with the hidden bolt sitting in the box of parts for my nortel.le, so doh, doh, and doh again! :facepalm:
 
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