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Ahhh got you. I thought I'd missed a link to pictures. Would love to see some...

Re: Re: Have I missed something?! :lol:

Re: Any pictures?

CBguy - very interesting and yes, very very similar (the cable tie/wrap things could be original?). Unfortunately I think the only thing that will bring this close to resolving though is some serial number information... :(

Good points. I also noticed there's some apparently less-good details on the ebay frame to mine... not a welding expert but looking at some bits it looks a bit messy!

Haha - right you are! In that case, it remains that only Roy Thame has matching serials that I've found... and the Holdsworth decals MIGHT explain the linkage to Thame... but who or what was the "A" for....

As far as I can tell, Mercians don't have letters before the number - though the last two digits were the year, making this a 70... dwscrimshaw suggests it could be a Falcon Holdsworth from 89/90 due to pump peg but I can't find any serial info for those, and everyone seems to agree it's from...

Re: Got some more pics as an update including brake bridge and braze-ons... maybe this will help you... CBguy, Wileyone or dwscrimshaw? By the way... not trying to suck up to your egos but I am very impressed with all the knowledge here! This is my first time reading into frame building and it...

Re: I'll try and get extra serials/markings as requested as soon as I can. Meanwhile, here's the full bike!

Re: Ach, well that's (probably) that then - not a TQ! But maybe the "A" was someone else in Thame's shop? (mine is "A 14270", in similar style to the ebay bike) EDIT 2: the list I have seen is Jack Capeling Bill Rann Bill Harlow Sid Bishop Reg Collard Chas Roberts Tommy Quick Alec Bird...

Re: Re: Hi Wileyone I see you found this post after reading my other on Bike Forums -- they won't let me post pictures but you can see them above here: viewtopic.php?p=2989686#p2989686 As you can see, the serial runs east-west, much like this Roy Thame that dwscrimshaw pointed me to on ebay...

I've just done some research around Thame and posts on other forums, and although I can see similarities, the serial numbers don't really seem to stack up. The best I got was this thread on Holdsworth frame builders doing their own jobs which suggests maybe the A in mine is the second name of...

Re: Mhmmm fair enough. Meanwhile, I commented because I'm just trying to establish who made my frame, and the discussion above about someone at Tonard doing their own frames in a similar style of Holdsworth is why I came here... maybe mine is the same person etc. My frame I am trying to...

Re: Hi Robin - thanks for the sensible suggestion but no, I have not done this yet. I've only recently moved house and don't have the tools to do it easily -- indeed, it's some years since I've ever done that to any bike so would probably ask my mechanic friend to do it haha. Maybe when I need...

Re: From looking at CB and Witcomb numbering systems it seems unlikely to be either. Does anyone know if anyone ever did serials with letters at the start? I know very little about this but have never seen one like that in all the stuff I've looked at. I didn't get any further with information...

Thanks both, will investigate. Also, as you can see Bob Jackson have their sticker on it so that's an interesting other-addition in the quest... but I think that's just because they did some work on it more recently.

Hi there -- do you have the serial for this frame? I am trying to ID something very similar that purports to be Holdsworth but the serial doesn't seem to be Holdsworth... see: viewtopic.php?p=2989706#p2989706

Re: Just to note -- looking at this, the details look exactly the same (N.B. TO ME! But I know nothing about this topic haha): viewtopic.php?p=953489#p953489 EDIT: AH-HA! Is this interesting/possible? viewtopic.php?p=2426361#p2426361 Could it be a Tonard? Any ideas or history on that?

Re: ...and here is the serial number. It's under a bottom cable bracket I didn't want to fully remove so a few shots to get the full number (A 14270, A seems to be a little smaller?) by moving the bracket around.

Re: Took a bit longer than planned sorry -- here is the lugwork around different bits...