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Re: Re: Good advice I think, and together with Matt's reassurances, I think I'll probably with my gut and go with the Canyon 105 or Ultegra (£1250 / £1500) carbon offering. I also need the "Sportive" (crikey - call it the club-run already !!!) geometry at my age (!!!) - which the Canyon...

Great, thnx for that. Makes me feel happier about not spending stooooooooopid money to begin with !

My fave ever Campag Rear Mech had a knurled finish - was built like a torque wrench. Never slipped and I could shift up a cog, going up Winnats Pass. Guess I'll just suck it and see. Canyon do a full carbon with Ultegra for £1500, and I'll probably upgrade the wheels when there's a bargain in...

I agree the framesets were really nice back then. My Bottechia had chromed dropouts and hand-painted trim around the chrome !!! Anyhoo, I digress. I really just need to know that buying a £1500 bike with say 105 or Ultegra, will match the quality of C Record / Chorus 25 years ago. Or... do I...

Hi, Thnx for that. Well back in the day the best stuff was pretty good, but Sh 105 was pretty much regarded as entry level. As for gears, well except the Shimano SIS 600 stuff, we all relied on manual shifter levers on the down tube ! Really after smooth hubs and crisp changing like with my...

Hi all, i am coming back to bicycling after 25 years and i'm wondering how groupsets today compared to those in the eighties and nineties, value wise. So in the late 80s and early ninety's i had a bike costing around £800 which was a 531 professional bottechia frame with campagnolo chorus...