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Oh that's lovely

+1 Yes, please share some photo's of your Passoni @24pouces. It's one of my favourite bikes ever on this site.

Don't be dissing ADOM - that's the most wholesome place on all t'internet!

Of course, how could it be otherwise!

It's been available for a while, and was mentioned before on here. Not a nice build is it - that stem is revolting! But seems pretty cheap, if it fits.

When SRAM bought up Sachs they kept this model for a while. They're high quality mech's and were really expensive BITD, but people often assume they must be cheapo's because of the plastic and styling. https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site/sram_plasma_1st_style_derailleur.html Some very mixed...

It doesn't seem to be that kind of hard plastic so I don't think it does. I've a few different versions in the mech' collection and none have deteriorated

Not my cup of tea really, but although they're plastic they're well made with circlips and stainless pins etc, so can be dismantled

Yep. Some info from Disraeli Gears - https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site/sachs_plasma_derailleur.html

I'm not a fan of the look of these but they work really well. Good price...

I'd hope so, that's awful. Personally I really like these but do think they're possibly a bit fragile...? The titanium used isn't the toughest and seems to dent quite easily. Then there's the concern about debonding, especially if it's had a hard life. I'd want a really sound looking one...

Wonderful. Nice bits too, but I'd sling the red chainrings; the frame doesn't need those stealing the attention.

They might put a special order in for you? Unless that's old school service, and not offered these days

Yep, the OP definitely started the thread trying to imply that, then backtracked somewhat; "I don't think it's entirely certain it's a counterfeit" etc. They seemed a bit evasive about where the frame was located too. I also think the welding 'not up to modern CH standards' was a BS attempt to...

I agree. I fecking hate it. This frame isn't faking anything.

Lets see some Moots work ...and some of Vernon's for balance 😁

You didn't mention anything about titanium, but Hershey Ti hubs are very nice with their polished Ti centres. I quite like my GT Hadley's as well (the U.S. ones). Hugi are very reliable hubs apparently, as are Phil Wood and Royce but those aren't cheap

Great choices. Looks like a classy, understated build which is what this frame deserves.

Fair point, could well be. Might've been a test frame for such a shop. They had absolutely no intention of ever passing it off as a Zaskar though

Apparently it weighs a ton. Anyone who knew what they were doing (or cared) would have known the weight was going to be excessive before it was built from the weight of the tubes, plates etc. Makes me incline to the 'enthusiast' commission idea