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I was thinking literally the same thing recently as I've just acquired a nearly new Genesis Croix that would make a great utility bike, but it's going to be hard to leave anywhere... believe it or not Ammaco decals are available on ebay; as are Carrera jobs too :p

A bit of an update on this if anyone's interested.. A while ago I pulled my finger out and measured the cable pull and FD ratios on what I had available. Please be aware that the methodology is a little sketchy - cable pull measured with a vernier between the cable stop and a masking tape flag...

Thanks for taking the time to go through all that - I'd not considered the presence of a clutch to potentially be problematic. You make an interesting case about clutched RD use on doubles; however FWIW I have a clutched GRX 810 derailleur on an otherwise 105 2x drivetrain without any obvious...

On the offchance anyone has similar questions, many more hours spent scouring the internet suggest that: There are questions over the compatability of 10/11sp MTB drivetrains as apparently (according to Bike Gremlin) 10sp ("Dyna-sys") has a slightly lower derailleur ratio and higher cable pull...

Looking for a bit of advice please! I like triples and hydro brakes so am looking at the 10sp Deore XT T8000 "Trekking" groupset, which centres around Shimano's last (and I think now discontinued) high-end triple crankset (48/36/26). This appears to be an offshoot of the 11sp M8000 mtb...

Actually, according to Bike Gremlin it seems we were both wrong :p

lol - glad I'm not the only one with this perspective; as unfortunate as it is. Wheels I can kind of see some legitimacy in but don't get me started on BB standards - everything I own is now standard BSA threaded, and that's the way it will stay.. They've certainly done a great job of making...

Can't help with any sales outlets unfortunately; tbh I think enthusiast sites like RB are as good as you're going to get as the market's absolutely dead and retro gear has near-zero appeal outside of enthusiast circles.. plus auctioneers are generally leeches and I suspect you'd see next to no...

Indeed; sadly lots of searching has failed to turn up any acceptable solutions.. I'd not considered using a cable release in the way you suggest - that really would be a shot in the dark and unfortunately too much faff for my tastes. Unfortunately for this exercise I'm not "many cyclists"...

Thanks for that really insightful response - reinforces a lot of what I've already found / thought. Agree about the lack of hydro triple left; sadly.. and I feel you're probably correct about parts interchangeability too although I can't confirm from experience. I could certainly use a...

Thanks - I did consider this but think it's highly unlikely that bits would be compatable. The only groupset I can find that contains both hydro and triple shifters is Tiagra 4700 (2x10, 3x10 mech, 2x10 hydro) and the only thing that appears similar between the mech and hydro shifters is the...

Thanks and probably; the problem is that I want a 3x11 setup with hydro disks and STIs, but no such setup is available off the shelf. I had a proper look inside an R7000 shifter recently with a view to modding one and it was.... intimidating..

I want to mate these two together for reasons I won't bore the forum with. The shifter is for a double FD, so I'm going to pull apart a dead one to see if it can be modded to shift a triple. Assuming this is even possible I understand from internet research that the cable pull ratios for 11sp...

Thanks for clarifying; sounds like an interesting setup. I'll keep in in mind in case I magically find some space :)

Out of casual I-definitely-don't-need-another-bike interest, what's the situation with the brakes and gearing? Is it a rod-operated caliper on the front, coaster on the back with a 3sp IGH, or something different? Ta!

Ahh, cool - I stand corrected :) Might be worth keeping an eye out for a used set of 4700s..? The price of bits seems to be reasonable suppressed currently..

No worries and yes; I'd be very happy with that too. I agree about the shifters; IMO those Tiaga (4600) items aren't the best looking around either... you mention you're running 10sp, but aren't the shifters only 9? I had Tiagra 4700 (10sp) on my old road bike and it was very nice; not sure...

Great work; I'm a sucker for a nice old steel frame with modern components. It looks really nice and the black groupset / wheels / finishing kit don't look at all out of place as they sometimes do on a retro-modern build.

Cool - best I can pull from the archives: That's with 32mm tyres on 19mm wide rims. Clearance at the sides seems fine; if there's going to a problem it would be above the guard, there's plenty of clearance in use but I've put some protection tape on top of the guards as the cable retainer...

Cool - good luck with that; I admire your commitment!