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    Catalogue 1984 MBK-Motobecane Racing-Training Catalogue

    Please feel free to download and print for personal use.
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    Catalogue 1984 MBK-Motobecane Racing-Training Catalogue

    BTW, I scanned the brochure at high resolution--enjoy.
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    Catalogue 1984 MBK-Motobecane Racing-Training Catalogue

    You're welcome. The brochure is undated, but I've concluded that it must be from late 1984 because it mentions race results from that year and because the 1985 brochure shows a different product line and color scheme (the same one found on our OP's Special Pro). So this is the end of the...
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    Catalogue 1984 MBK-Motobecane Racing-Training Catalogue

    MBK-Motobecane French Brochure, undated, probably 1984.
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    Catalogue 1984 MBK-Motobecane Racing-Training Catalogue

    mikestr submitted a new resource: 1984 MBK-Motobecane Racing-Training Brochure Read more about this resource...
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    MBK Special pro…thoughts?

    Our messages crossed: We were thinking similar thoughts. I haven't seen any other SPs as late as yours, so who knows what was going on. It could be that they had the same parts in stock and just continued to build them this way until they ran out--1985 was the last season for that team. But if...
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    MBK Special pro…thoughts?

    One reason I thought that these last SPs might have been resprays is the somewhat retro bottom bracket arrangement for that late date. Not just the shell, either. If you look at the French kit Gitane was using on the pro bikes two years earlier, it's the new stuff: cartridge BB and a plain...
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    MBK Special pro…thoughts?

    OK, so this is really interesting! Of course, there are different possibilities: The June date could be a coincidence, and the bike might have been made for a customer. But I still haven't seen any evidence that in 1985 the SP was being offered by MBK, so I find your hypothesis completely...
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    MBK Special pro…thoughts?

    Almost!. Mine is threaded all the way across the body, like the upper unit in the picture below, but with a titanium axle. It's a 701T. Rather rare, I suspect.
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    MBK Special pro…thoughts?

    The setup is different on my Motobecane, as on many later French bikes, as it has no fixed cup at all. The BB unit is a one-piece cartridge that threads into the BB shell through to the other side, with a righthand-threaded lock ring on either side.
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    MBK Special pro…thoughts?

    I've always had right-left confusion--now "fixed" is fixed. The Swiss direction is like BSC, but threads are 35x1mm. Peugeot's way allowed them to make the same frames for the different markets, with only a minute's work needed on the steering tube and different stems and hubs supplied. Mr...
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    MBK Special pro…thoughts?

    Good question! I own exactly one Motobecane, which I imported from France, so I'm not the person to ask, though I think I know one who is. As for Peugeot, I can say that it was a mixture: export frames were metric throughout--tubing diameter and HS and BB threading--but starting in the early 80s...
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    MBK Special pro…thoughts?

    It does, a little bit. There is a 1981 dealer document I've seen that says exactly which models can be customized. One thing to keep in mind is the difference in both models and options between France and (probably) other markets. In France, the "SP," sold in the US (and UK?) as the Team...
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    MBK Special pro…thoughts?

    Gents, I guess I don't have that old Motobecane price list anymore. But I have just received the aforementioned and long-sought 1984 French brochure. It is quite interesting (to those who like such things), as it fills in some gaps in the model history at the very end. I can scan and post it if...
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    MBK Special pro…thoughts?

    I've seen many attempts to correlate the European and US models but many of then just don't line up. I've mentioned Ben Lawee before, the US importer and sort of a legendary figure over here. He in effect created some of the export models. "Le Champion" came equipped for a number of years with a...
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    MBK Special pro…thoughts?

    Thanks--much appreciated.
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    MBK Special pro…thoughts?

    Great question. So this is exactly what I was posting about that unfortunately raised some dust (and Guinessisgoodforyou please contact me offline so we can sort this out). I should be acquiring the French brochure for 1984 as soon as it takes to reach me. But the 1984 US edition is already...
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    MBK Special pro…thoughts?

    Of course not, and I will be happy to post old brochures I have, picked up at shops in the 1980s--if there is any interest. But I'm not a collector of ephemera in the sense that I ever buy such things. I merely wanted to gauge the interest of this group in this. I would be happy to pay for a...
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    MBK Special pro…thoughts?

    I don't remember requesting that, only the 50p.
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    MBK Special pro…thoughts?

    Don't worry about it; when he sobers up he won't remember a thing.
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