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I don't think that argument has any merit, and it is not the core of the thread.
sylus":29u62cin said:Which was my point all along when it comes to minority rights
what someone considers offensive others consider okay
Neil":7cl784ia said:Yes but that always assumes that the modern, liberal, civilised equality has always been.
Neil":7cl784ia said:is now being talked about using the same / similar terminology that's been used to describe the centuries of prejudice and true oppression they've faced.
sylus":2uyaur4r said:Neil":2uyaur4r said:is now being talked about using the same / similar terminology that's been used to describe the centuries of prejudice and true oppression they've faced.
Then you are luckier than I as I have never met anyone who is centuries old
Go back to page 2 of this thread, where you are making arguments about replacing one form of oppression with another.sylus":1cbqijny said:again I've not argued that it is opressive that white people cannot use the N word..I have argued that if it is offensive then all colours should stop using it
sylus":1cbqijny said:semantics? you qoute opression of centuries old people but there are no centuries old people, humans biological clock determines so, so this does challenge your own attempt at debate about over dramatising surely?
sylus":1cbqijny said:if, as I have said before you have rules that isolate a group one minute then allow that group special privilage then you are infact creating a two tier system whilst claiming we are all equal, which I have argued should not be the way.
sylus":1cbqijny said:You have argued history is not correct one minute as my duck
sylus":1cbqijny said:then claimed history with centuries old people which do not exist. I can certianly understand why your having difficulties with your argument as it is all over the place
sylus":1cbqijny said:if you are going to have rules then they must apply to all equally, if not then you have a selective system based on who is the flavour of the month at that time
sylus":31nivd0m said:Your argument is based on hundreds of years of differential treatment justifies preferences today even if they are not under the auspicies of everyone being treated equally
sylus":31nivd0m said:my argument is that if something is offensive then it should be as equally offensive no matter what the colour
sylus":31nivd0m said:your argument insists on differences having the right to descriminate based on colour but in reverse...mine does not
sylus":31nivd0m said:in the case of colour it is often conveniently overlooked that whilst white men took part in slavery they actually bought them from tribes who had rounded up other tribes to sell them to the white man
sylus":31nivd0m said:now..which one is more offensive..the white man buying them or the black men selling them?..to me it would be both, based on your argument only the white man should feel guilt..it's a rather selective and convenient theory based in selective truthfullness
sylus":31nivd0m said:and there in lies my argument..for all people to be treated equally..all people need to be equally treated
sylus":31nivd0m said:your unable to see that and I respect the difference and wouldn't lower my tone to calling your opinion utter utter rubbish because it is different
Neither necessarily is a white person.Neil":3oie6u6c said:A black person using the N word, isn't doing so, to reinforce racial stereotypes, and demean another black person by doing so.
Retro Cat":3ub1tnbp said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-22018888
Surely there's a difference between racism/homophobia/disability hate crime and choosing to wear clothing to stand out?