Chopper the ex Copper
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But then most car drivers aren't enthusiasts either. A car is just a tool to them to which thy never give a second thought.
Chopper1192":k59x39av said:Ah, that's ok then. Because a car is a tonne plus of kinetic weapon cyclists can ride like utter tools (and the bulk of them do) with impunity because they aren't such a deadly risk to others.
Whoever causes a collision/incident/crash is at fault and potentially liable to legal action, either criminal or civil regardless of whether their vehicle has an engine or a roof . That's how it is now, and how it should be. Arguing that I should automatically be at fault because I'm in he car that day because I needed to ferry a weeks worth of uniform and kit to work is utterly preposterous. We're lawfully defined by our actions, not by which seat our arses just happen to be it at any one moment in time
highlandsflyer":3i5vfygb said:I am against any presumption of fault. Yet another move away from the right to be presumed innocent.
The way forward is better education and pro active policing, not giving irresponsible cyclists another reason to feel justified.
Neil":3jb1eupf said:highlandsflyer":3jb1eupf said:I am against any presumption of fault. Yet another move away from the right to be presumed innocent.
The way forward is better education and pro active policing, not giving irresponsible cyclists another reason to feel justified.
I used to feel much the same.
Then I woke up, listened and read a lot of "normal" people and their views about bikes on the road, things like the validity of it, and took in the general attitude, plus the rampant ignorance by many towards cyclists - often most espoused by the "You don't pay car tax!" crowd.
So many show ignorance of cyclists having rights, cyclists being at risk, and have such a bombastic approach to cyclists. I remain unconvinced education is going to get through to them - they're not looking to broaden their mind, they're looking for something that bolsters their ignorance, preconceptions and bias.