Withdrawn Barron 653 with complete Shimano Santé groupset

KondratievsBike said:
Having rashly promised my teenaged son half the garage for a gym I’m having to downsize.

So I’m selling my Barron 653 with Santé groupset if anyone fancies a less well known but beautifully built addition to their collection.

£395 collected from Wakey in West Yorks or probably about an extra £45 insured with Paisley Freight.
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KondratievsBike said:
Finally got it back from my partner’s garage and measured it type bump.

Seat tube is 51cm C2C and 53 C2T
Top Tube is 54cm
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less than you are asking but would £300 buy it, can pick it up and pay
 
Eric H said:
less than you are asking but would £300 buy it, can pick it up and pay
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Hi Eric.

Thanks for the offer but I’m gonna say no. Been fretting more and more about getting rid of it and I think I’ll keep it. My son will just have to have a little bit less space.
 
Really nice. Original colour, or repainted?
Here is what I know about Sante (copied from a different forum):

"Sante offered as a freewheel used the Dura-Ace 7s freewheel standard, which I believe pre-dated the Ultegra 7s cassette. There never was a 7s Ultegra or 600 freewheel.
The OEM use of Sante on the Schwinn Circuit employed a 7s Uniglide cassette, with the freehub body not being of the Dura-Ace style with integrated mounting bolt.
The Sante hubs were super-nice, but their prominent elastomer outer shields may prove delicate during rebuilds 30 years later!
The Sante rear derailer easily accommodates 12-28t cassettes while shifting perfectly during a sporting level of riding in hilly terrain. The 9t lower pully is not something that can be easily found these days, but lasts a very long time. One of the limit screws is relocated to the cage-pivot knuckle of the derailer!
The Sante bottom bracket used the old Dura-Ace AX 108mm (lo-profile) spindle dimensions, but 107mm cartridge-bb replacements are common as dirt and work perfectly.
That shorter 108mm spindle length was still ahead of it's time in 1988!
I believe the Sante chainrings were always of the BioPace 53/42t variety. The crank pedal holes were "blind" tapped, not thru holes.
The Sante calipers feel good and responsive in use but can be harder to keep centered in use than newer dual-pivot calipers. Sante levers had integral quick release buttons and were even offered in a petite version with shorter reach.
The Sante headset features the French-style headset locking system, but with finer teeth for finer adjustments.
It works great but has plastic covers that can become lost or broken, with replacements being very rare to find.
Suntour knocked off the Sante gruppo with their own white "Ole" gruppo, which was of a much lower grade or quality.
Were there any other production bikes (other than the Circuit) that were spec'd with the Sante gruppo?
Might Schwinn have had anything to do with the concept and development of the Sante gruppo? It seems like a crazy lot of work that Shimano did to make such a limited-production gruppo, but for the large number of Schwinn Circuits that used it."
 
Bi_Polar_Bear_77 said:
Does it have Sante hubs and a headset as well?
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Bi_Polar_Bear_77 said:
Really nice. Original colour, or repainted?
Here is what I know about Sante (copied from a different forum):

"Sante offered as a freewheel used the Dura-Ace 7s freewheel standard, which I believe pre-dated the Ultegra 7s cassette. There never was a 7s Ultegra or 600 freewheel.
The OEM use of Sante on the Schwinn Circuit employed a 7s Uniglide cassette, with the freehub body not being of the Dura-Ace style with integrated mounting bolt.
The Sante hubs were super-nice, but their prominent elastomer outer shields may prove delicate during rebuilds 30 years later!
The Sante rear derailer easily accommodates 12-28t cassettes while shifting perfectly during a sporting level of riding in hilly terrain. The 9t lower pully is not something that can be easily found these days, but lasts a very long time. One of the limit screws is relocated to the cage-pivot knuckle of the derailer!
The Sante bottom bracket used the old Dura-Ace AX 108mm (lo-profile) spindle dimensions, but 107mm cartridge-bb replacements are common as dirt and work perfectly.
That shorter 108mm spindle length was still ahead of it's time in 1988!
I believe the Sante chainrings were always of the BioPace 53/42t variety. The crank pedal holes were "blind" tapped, not thru holes.
The Sante calipers feel good and responsive in use but can be harder to keep centered in use than newer dual-pivot calipers. Sante levers had integral quick release buttons and were even offered in a petite version with shorter reach.
The Sante headset features the French-style headset locking system, but with finer teeth for finer adjustments.
It works great but has plastic covers that can become lost or broken, with replacements being very rare to find.
Suntour knocked off the Sante gruppo with their own white "Ole" gruppo, which was of a much lower grade or quality.
Were there any other production bikes (other than the Circuit) that were spec'd with the Sante gruppo?
Might Schwinn have had anything to do with the concept and development of the Sante gruppo? It seems like a crazy lot of work that Shimano did to make such a limited-production gruppo, but for the large number of Schwinn Circuits that used it."
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Repained. I wasn’t a fan of the paler blue that was its original colour although slightly regret that now (although I domicile this blue better)

It’s built with Santé hubs. When I built it I didn’t have a Santé headset so built it with a Stronglight one I had in a drawer but have since got hold of a Santé one that I’ve never got round to fitting so that now occupies the space in the drawer 🤣

I agree with the comment about the amount of work that went into such a short lived groupset. I guess with 600 developing as it did, Dura Ace sitting as king at the top and the fact that it was just a bit too poseur-ish for a sport that was then still a long way from becoming the new golf (at least in the anglophone world) then it probably didn’t get the sales it needed?

Peugeot specced it in 1988 on their 653 frame in the US market only (I think) so maybe that shows that it wasn’t really a hit in the more traditional cycling nations?

 
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