80's Kili Flyer £35 starting bid

[jaypee]

They are both made by Autostrada.

The Harry Hall was 531 All Terrain rather than the cro-mo 501 for the Saracen so there will be the odd difference as its a 'lower' frame. There are a few Saracens in 531 about somewhere.

Heres a Saracen that matches old Harry even down to the drop-outs - just a bit smaller

obviously

Wasn't there something about these really early 501 ones being earlier than 531atb?

 

[legrandefromage]

No.

Now I'm back from the pub, Bluemels and F.W.Evans made the 'earliest' production models with a famous builder whose post pub fug name escapes me throwing in the odd frame or two.

try this thread - although later very very early production bikes have popped up since

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