I bought one if these frames new from merlin, it was triple butted alu (kinesis built) and did me well for a year commuting to work and the odd off road excursion. Nice frames and take any parts you throw at it, sounds overkill now, but mine was kitted out with xtr, pace rc36 stealth forks and rim brake cross ride wheels. Miss it for the simplicity and. 100% usability in all conditions. Bargain for someone.