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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:35 pm 
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Scott Team Issue, Scandium 1150g. Stupid light frame and bike when built.8kg or so with SIDs.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:54 pm 
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I Had a 22lb cannondale Killer V back in the day, rigid and shimano STX kit on her!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:17 am 
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My Dekerf Team SL is about 1800g for steel download/file.php?id=437922

... however i've not weighed many of my others prior to build, I think my Klein Attitude (later one) was around 1600g (obvs alloy)...


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:58 pm 
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TOMAS wrote:
I think my Klein Attitude (later one) was around 1600g (obvs alloy)...


My 2001 model weighs about 1630g which is disappointing given the 5-6 year older brother Pulse weighs 100g less.

What did you do with your Klein Attitude? Xc or trail?

I'm torn between building up a flashy expensive Klein of moderate weight or a beat up GF Supercaliber (frame in OP) with older components for much cheaper and possibly lighter weight.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:51 pm 
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a fraction over 1400G

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:01 am 
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a fraction over 1400G

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A Medium sized FAT Ti frame is ~ 150g heavier than this XLM but the tube walls are not so crazily easily dented ;) Steel FATs are almost 1lb heavier again for the same sized frame. Fillet brazed frames again add ~ 1/2lb to frame weight.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:05 pm 
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M-Power wrote:
cce wrote:
a fraction over 1400G

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A Medium sized FAT Ti frame is ~ 150g heavier than this XLM but the tube walls are not so crazily easily dented ;) Steel FATs are almost 1lb heavier again for the same sized frame. Fillet brazed frames again add ~ 1/2lb to frame weight.



This was the only stratosphere-level frame I owned. It was utterly utterly brilliant *if* I was on my game. It always wanted to go faster. When I was fat and slow it felt all wrong.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:39 am 
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npn wrote:
TOMAS wrote:
I think my Klein Attitude (later one) was around 1600g (obvs alloy)...


My 2001 model weighs about 1630g which is disappointing given the 5-6 year older brother Pulse weighs 100g less.

What did you do with your Klein Attitude? Xc or trail?

I'm torn between building up a flashy expensive Klein of moderate weight or a beat up GF Supercaliber (frame in OP) with older components for much cheaper and possibly lighter weight.


My Attitude only comes out every blue moon, like most of my Retros it get ridden lightly along canal toepaths, gravel tracks etc, for serious riding I'll always hop on a modern ride. In terms of weight/ride I find the 2 very different, the Klein is incredibly stiff... I like that for flat hardpack stuff to get the power down but anything else it would be rough going imo. Whereas 2 of the nicest bikes i've ridden were a Kona Cindercone from around '95 and also a '96 Saracen Tufftrax, maybe thats because that the era I first got into MTB as a teen?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:43 am 
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Nearly forgot! I'm mid-way through building this DBR Axis TT ('94 I believe), which is bang on 1500g...


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:42 am 
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I assume someone of these lighter frames are for road bikes not mtb as I don't recognize them. I should've said "the lightest mtb frame I've owned"

The Klein is cool, though mine is I think newer and don't plan to ride it lightly... If I end up building it. Was just curious how it would do on the trail, not so much xc.


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