Truvativ use a gxp bb which is different to a shimano one. You can't use a noir crank with any other bb apart from a gxp or a hope bb with gxp adapters.
^^^ yes , I know that ... I guess my q did not come across clearly
I need to replace the bottom bracket cups. ... so my question is what BB thread would be found on a 2009 Specialised? I guess English - the other one, Italian would be round mostly on Italian road bikes??? :?
(it has shimano cups fitted - do shimano make external BB for italian trhead, if not, I have my answer )
I've had a closer look (it is carbon frame sepcialized) and see no external BB cups; the Spec. blurb describes it as: integrated pipe billet bottom bracket ensure stiffness and efficiency...