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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:48 am 
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I would like to point out some differences between the campagnolo 8-speed groupsets:
I mean, record OR (off road), Icarus, Centaur
The guys at Campagnolo mixed MTB groups, occasionally using the same components.

first of all, some photoes of the individual groups

Record OR 1993
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Record OR 1994
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Icarus
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Centaur
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:56 am 
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SAME components in the 3 groups

shifters

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front derailleur

controls bullet

cassettes 8V

seatpost

thingy to route the cables under the BB

identical components for record OR and icarus

brake levers

chain

identical components for Icarus and Centaur

cantilever brakes

BB

headset

pedals

the group centaur is the only one with the brake levers in black plastic (even bullet combo), these brake levers are identified as "BL-02IC" and are Icarus

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:11 am 
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differences between the cranks

record OR
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icarus
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centaur
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the first apparent difference is that the record OR's fifth chainring bolt is hidden behind the crankarm

record OR
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icarus
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Icarus's cranks are different from Centaur's because Icarus (as the record OR) uses a lockring for the inner and middle ring, while the Centaur uses a standard 5 bolt pattern

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If you can read the teeth, the centaur is the only one with no gears microdrive, but standard 24-26/34-36/46-48,
icarus and record Or have the same 20-22/30-32/42-44


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:26 am 
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brake cantilever

record OR 93

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record OR 94

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icarus e centaur

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the difference between Record OR93 and Icarus is the spring adjustment nut (in the front on the record, behind the brake body on the icarus/centaur).
the difference between Record OR93 and Record OR94 is that the latter lost the front adjustment (now behind the brake body) and a has different brake pad adjustment hardware

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icarus
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centaur
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record OR94
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:35 am 
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rear derailleur

record OR

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icarus

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Icarus and Record have a different system to bolt the cage to the derailleur body. Icarus has an external bolt, Record has the bolt in the back of the body, just like the road derailleurs, which are squarer on the left side, tho

record OR

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icarus

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:42 am 
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record OR

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icarus

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centaur

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the difference that you will notice right away is that the grease port is absent in the Centaur version, while the only difference I have found between Record OR and Icarus is that the locking nut is in aluminum only for record while it is in steel for Icarus and Centaur

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:54 pm 
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thanks to Guido "Novekili" for having translated it! :lol:


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u're welcome my dear... :D


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Euclid with u-brakes is the way forward..... :shock:


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:52 pm 
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I have an Olympus groupset - where does that sit amongst the ones above?


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