I smell a rat: Alan Richards 653

grogee · Feb 8, 2015

Apologies if this has been outed before, and I'm willing to be corrected, but this looks dodgy as anything:

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... 03&alt=web

653 decal doesn't look like it is from the right period. 'Bubbling' on (aluminium) crank?

Tell me I'm wrong...

legrandefromage · Feb 8, 2015

653 decal looks whiffy . Seat collar smacks of 501 or 531. 500EX rear mech and brakes. Rusted out campagnolo headset from sweat. Bitsa bike handmedown from a club

Mike Muz · Feb 8, 2015

Re:

Never mind the sticker, what the hell is going on with that saddle and rear brake cable :shock:

:facepalm:

mike

Grease Monkey · Feb 8, 2015

Just about everything about that bike is wrong - hopefully nobody pays any big money for it

Midlife · Feb 8, 2015

Looks like a generic 1980 ish frame, or am I missing something?

Shaun

Mike Muz · Feb 8, 2015

Midlife":15lju4ln said:
Looks like a generic 1980 ish frame, or am I missing something?

Shaun

I think you are Shaun,

You're missing the chance to own a right POS!

mike

toobigagear · Feb 9, 2015

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The "seat collar " is cast into the seat lug, these as still available to frame builders and have been for decades , so its not a dating evidence . I`m 100% its not 653.

legrandefromage · Feb 9, 2015

Nobody mentioned aging the frame by the seatcollar, just what it might be made from

MrW · Feb 9, 2015

Reynolds 631:

http://reynoldstechnology.biz/our_materials_631.php/

Especially suited to ATB and BMX....

:facepalm:

toobigagear · Feb 11, 2015

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And like wise , you cant identify a tube set by lug work , but at the very least we should get our terminology right and learn to identify seat lugs with cast fittings or even pressed lug work, with or without "ears" , those using brassed on seat binders . Non of these are "seat collars", a term which refers to a separate loose clamp or a brassed on fitting .

I smell a rat: Alan Richards 653

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