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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:58 pm 
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I live on the edge of the Surrey Hills, so 7 days a week the roads are full of roadies on their carbon steeds. However, the last few days have been proper wet and today's ride was a little different.... I saw one pillock on ££££££ of full carbon with 100mm deep-section carbon wheels off for a ride in the wind :facepalm: and several others grinding their rims to death on the muddy roads. BUT there was a different breed out today, the 'sensible cyclist'.

First up was a gent in his 50s on a Thorn 26" touring steed with mudguards and a rack (and a puncture :lol:) with a Rohloff hub, next was a gent on a Dawes Galaxy disc with mudguards and a rack. I saw a few skinny tyre disc-braked road bikes with mudguards too.

It made me think, what is the DNA of a perfect wet (not snowy) winter bike? Here's my list and my bike:

Nothing too fancy frame-wise and no suspension. Alloy or steel frame with steel forks.
Comfort fit / slack geometry
Disc brakes
Drop bars (for tucking in facing big headwinds) short drop & reach
Full-length mudguards
A good set of quality, sealed hubs
A wide spread gears - probably hub geared if you can afford them
Something to carry waterproofs in

My bike is a ~20 year old Kona hybrid converted to drop bars, because I was too much of a cheapskate to buy a tourer. However, I rode 800 miles in 10 days a few years back touring Scotland so it isn't too shoddy. The only bad bits are the hubs which have virtually no seals in an fill up with water when it is really wringing. Once I find some NOS M756 hubs I shall have the wheels rebuilt.

SP


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:23 pm 
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Theres not much you can do about full wet weather proofing a bike or yourself but quality full length mudguards are always good and good grease is almost as good as any seal. But anything that can prevent the water coming in from what is basically a jet wash from the tyres.

Looking after other peoples' bikes it was BBs and front mechs that seemed to suffer the most.

Just my thoughts, loads of better help incoming from others hopefully


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Full length mudguards to with flaps, sealed BB and other bearings, and the correct chain lube. And proper cleaning once home again.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:55 pm 
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Looks about perfect. My winter road bike (1970s 531 steel of course) has full length guards, it does amaze me how many people run Dura-Ace equipped carbon bikes all winter without guards. First of all it must be uncomfortable riding with a wet backside and cold soggy feet all the time.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:57 pm 
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I've er, um, ridden bikes under water.

There I said it

1998 Easter floods, it was deep!

And in the sea too

Because I'm silly


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:00 pm 
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In the sea, was that Bournemouth?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:41 pm 
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As someone who cycle commutes 52 weeks of the year and lives in Manchester I would consider this my specialist subject (hence the username).
With houses it's location, location, location and with bikes it's mudguards, mudguards, mudguards.
Most everything else is personal preference.
I have an aluminium frame because it doesn't rust and run single speed so I ruin less drive train.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:48 pm 
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legrandefromage wrote:
I've er, um, ridden bikes under water.

There I said it

1998 Easter floods, it was deep!

And in the sea too

Because I'm silly
no wonder those Mafacs don't work


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:53 pm 
King of the Skip Monkeys
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pigman wrote:
legrandefromage wrote:
I've er, um, ridden bikes under water.

There I said it

1998 Easter floods, it was deep!

And in the sea too

Because I'm silly
no wonder those Mafacs don't work


It was a Zaskar, I was gnarly


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:55 pm 
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bedraggled wrote:
I have an aluminium frame because it doesn't rust and run single speed so I ruin less drive train.

I once had some aluminium forks on a winter bike. It was a proper winter bike, not the type to ride with a club, but the sort you never clean. Just chuck in the shed. Anyway, those forks ... the paint peeled around the fork crown, then the aluminium started to oxidise. Looked real scary and for me, dodgy forks is as bad as it gets. So I replaced them with steel enamelled forks. It took 2 years before paint even started to bubble, so I would recommend steel for the ultimate winter bike


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