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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:08 pm 
Devout Dirtbag

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Hi folks

I am umming and arring about buying a locally offered BSAtwenty folder.

Is there any chance that this may have 68mm BSC standard Headset and BB threads, or did Raleigh get their claws in to even the earliest BSA rebadged bikes?

Cheers
Jon


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:17 pm 
Devout Dirtbag

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I should add that I asked the seller what width bottom bracket shell it took, to which they replied '70mm' which stumped me as I thought Raleigh 20's were 76mm?!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:39 pm 
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I seem to remember a BSA 20 shopping bike pre raleigh. A good indicator is the raleigh octagonal headset, which will prove raleigh threads all round.
Keith


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:49 pm 
Devout Dirtbag

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Thanks Keith, fingers crossed all-round then!

Just got a pic- the frame is the U-shaped one and not the 'H' frame one, so that makes it a mid 80's one I believe. Oh well, I'll leave it I think.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:35 pm 
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I think these newer frames were imports rather than Nottingham builds. You might find standard threading rather than Raleigh.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:55 pm 
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Good to know, cheers gavr! The Dawes Kingpin seems less faff, so will lookout for one of those instead I think!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:40 pm 
rBoTM Winner
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Kingpins are very well made and standard throughout.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:21 pm 
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Yellow_Peril wrote:
The Dawes Kingpin seems less faff, so will lookout for one of those instead I think!

The Kingpin is an amazing bike, you really won't be disappointed with your choice.

...Except the wheels which really aren't the 'standard size' 20" ones, but 500A size. Oh and the cottle pins are really soft, so if you have any problems removing them you're in good company. But other than that the machines a classic :D


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:39 pm 
Devout Dirtbag

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Good tip! I have a cotter press so no worries on that front. Having renovated a Raleigh Lenton and a couple of other oldies that and the Raleigh BB tool are the 2 best tools in my collection!

Thanks again mate!

wurzelmike wrote:
Yellow_Peril wrote:
The Dawes Kingpin seems less faff, so will lookout for one of those instead I think!

The Kingpin is an amazing bike, you really won't be disappointed with your choice.

...Except the wheels which really aren't the 'standard size' 20" ones, but 500A size. Oh and the cottle pins are really soft, so if you have any problems removing them you're in good company. But other than that the machines a classic :D


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:35 am 
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...Except the wheels which really aren't the 'standard size' 20" ones, but 500A size.


Yes that's right. 500A is 440 in modern dimensions - most 20 inch wheels are 406 these days. Tyres and tubes are readily available in 440 and you'd find spokes but I reckon new rims might be a lot harder to come by. Steer clear of rusty chromed rims I'd suggest.


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