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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:28 pm 
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Hi - This is not quite the right thread - look under Eclipse - but mine is 060855. I am only guessing but that might mean 85/5 is May -85.

I had not heard about Holdsworth making the frames, people often quote Orbit as the frame-maker. By the 80s there was the Holdsworth shop in Putney - that made Roy Thame bikes, and there was Holdsworthy - you might ask Greg which one he used.

Is your bike complete - a photo would be good - they often seem to have come with Campag parts?

I would guess your numbering is a different 6-figure code say may be 1984, but that's just a guess.

That number, 060855, without any pictures of the frame looks like a typical Holdsworth 6 Digit number. it is purely sequential and if built by Holdsworth would be ~mid 1984. There is no build date in bedded in the number and only a few frames built in 85 as they had been taken over by Marlboro by then. Holdsworth used this system for CB and other people such as DBS and Harding etc. Typically this would be placed on the drive side BB just above the spindle center line.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:08 pm 
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Hi - Thank you, that's interesting - there is a pic up already at viewtopic.php?f=6&t=385528&start=10
does that look like a Holdsworth? Not at home for a while so can't check where the number is.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:55 pm 
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This is the frame number on my Eclipse


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:39 am 
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Hi - As far as I can see from Dave's wondrous researches that would not be a Holdsworth number, but he's the man.

It seems Orbit has gone through many hands and have no records of their 80s work, but try leaving a note on the Eclipse thread and you may get a response from us few Eclipse owners - please join us (2!) in the Eclipse massive!
The other name mentioned re frames for Eclipse was Jeremy Torr (again see the Eclipse thread) but your number doesn't seem to match his (begin TJ).
If you don't have decals luck I got a set from Gil at http://www.facebook.com/retrodecals - he was brilliant and for my silver frame made specially a black set with white edgings.
One thing to check is if your bike has 'eclipse' at the top of the rear forks, that was an Orbit trademark (occasionally!).
If you would care to share the Greg contact we could get all the Eclipse Massive info direct from the horse's mouth?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:17 am 
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yes, can't see that as holdsworth number, nor a CB number either.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:20 am 
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guybagnall wrote:
Hi - Thank you, that's interesting - there is a pic up already at viewtopic.php?f=6&t=385528&start=10
does that look like a Holdsworth? Not at home for a while so can't check where the number is.

Sorry, still not seeing any pictures. It would need to be mid 84 too.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:29 am 
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Hi Dave - re-attached here. Regards


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:23 am 
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guybagnall wrote:
Hi Dave - re-attached here. Regards


Isn’t that a Claud Butler Majestic sprayed silver?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:33 am 
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I had it from new, OE Eclipse from Bike UK, the cavernous undercroft behind and below the Strand - could it be it was made up to a CB Majestic design, but for Greg Oxenham, the Eclipse guy?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:40 am 
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Yes, I was going to suggest looking for similar model on the history site. Do you have a picture of the number and its location?


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