Recent content by saracenhavoc

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True, and thats why i originally came here as I was told that this is the place to be for info on and to buy/sell retro bikes :) I agree with your logic about the value and I'd guess that for anyone in that position the subjective value to them would probably be more than its objective value...

Thanks very much, I don't think the photo's do it justice but any higher res and I cant upload them... Thats fair enough and quite honestly don't expect to get £175 for it which is why I said or nearest offer. I'd take £150 for it and that figure only came from people on here saying the D521...

Tell me about it. Still there's nothing thats been said that is anything other than opinion so none of it actually means anything, like you say though would be nice for them to start their own thread for it rather than dragging down my for sale thread - but on the plus side, free bumps...

I didn't mean it like that, I use the term 'supermarket special' to refer to a bike of the lowest of the low components, ie: SIS gears, plastic brake levers, plastic gear shifters, plastic pedals, plastic crank arms, etc. usually found in supermarkets

nice, I always wanted a B17 but never had enough pennies...

No need to apologise, I'm a big boy and everyones entitled to their opinions but in my experience it is and always has been an excellent bike for the money and this is backed up by people who tested it when it came out. You might argue that this was only their opinion at the time but thousands...

So the 'components' you say were plastic is actually limited to just the mech which only has 2 plastic covers over a metal mech? I agree it was the cheapest full suspension bike of its day, and they obviously saved money on some parts in order to make the rest better - but its not the...

fair enough, likewise i know someone who snapped some rockshox boxxers forks on his way home from work one day - expensive doesn't mean its unbreakable and likewise entry level doesn't mean its unfit for purpose.

No need to apologise for what is only your subjective opinion - everyones entitled to their own no matter how innacurate it may be in reality :) All the reviews at the time (including those MBR and MBI mags which I have somewhere) all said pretty much the same as the uberdog article I linked to...

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Re: 1998 Klein Pulse Pro Value? Any ideas on this please people? ➡️

A rare gem from way back when Saracen made 'proper' bikes! Uberdog magazine march 1998 said: "The Havoc has to be one of the best value for money bikes in the whole world, what is basically a ready to race bike straight out off the box for little under £600, Perfect for beginners or as a...

Re: Newbie thinking of selling my Saracen Havoc unsure of va Actual Photo Uploaded:

1998 Klein Pulse Pro Value? Now i'm looking at a new bike, my Dad is thinking of joining me and might sell his Klein Pulse Pro... Got the spec off bikepedia and added a few bits that I know he changed - any idea what this will be worth these days? Its in excellent condition as he's had it from...