The spirit of the Santa Cruz Bontragers lives on ...

2manyoranges

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Well...worth a note in the retro rather than new section...I spoke to Cy Turner a couple of years ago since I was struck by just how much resemblance there was between the Cotic Soul which I had and the Bontrager Race OR frame which I had hanging in the workshop; the same gussets, the same balance of tubing in the main and rear triangle, a similar design for the seatstays, finesse and strength in a unique combination, oh...and made from very carefully spec'd steel. They really were so similar that I figured there must have been some awareness of the Bontrager. But no, apparently the Soul was designed using care, intelligence and insight from riding, and that took Cotic to the same place as Keith Bontrager in his garage in Santa Cruz. Pandemic stopped me fulfilling the promise of dropping in to Cotic with my Race OR, since they were interested to see one, and now it's gone to the West Country for a loving build. But the spirit of the Santa Cruz garage and early Cannery frames clearly lives on....and so I have just ordered this.....and when I ride it I will be thinking of the line of inheritance from the late 80's through to the very latest versions - which differ essentially only in a few details (44mm head tube) and being extremely stretched - yes, long, (relatively) low, and slack....maybe if KB hadn't sold the whole shebang to Trek, maybe this is exactly what he would be torching and selling these days...

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Stressed - It's currently building up nicely - although suffering from parts mismatch due to COVID shortages. Purple hope rear brake and lever. Orange front. Red Hope headset. Brown Deity stem. It's looking like a bin sale at the parts factory at the moment. But it should ride brilliantly...
 

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Well...worth a note in the retro rather than new section...I spoke to Cy Turner a couple of years ago since I was struck by just how much resemblance there was between the Cotic Soul which I had and the Bontrager Race OR frame which I had hanging in the workshop; the same gussets, the same balance of tubing in the main and rear triangle, a similar design for the seatstays, finesse and strength in a unique combination, oh...and made from very carefully spec'd steel. They really were so similar that I figured there must have been some awareness of the Bontrager. But no, apparently the Soul was designed using care, intelligence and insight from riding, and that took Cotic to the same place as Keith Bontrager in his garage in Santa Cruz. Pandemic stopped me fulfilling the promise of dropping in to Cotic with my Race OR, since they were interested to see one, and now it's gone to the West Country for a loving build. But the spirit of the Santa Cruz garage and early Cannery frames clearly lives on....and so I have just ordered this.....and when I ride it I will be thinking of the line of inheritance from the late 80's through to the very latest versions - which differ essentially only in a few details (44mm head tube) and being extremely stretched - yes, long, (relatively) low, and slack....maybe if KB hadn't sold the whole shebang to Trek, maybe this is exactly what he would be torching and selling these days...

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That looks absolutely ace!😍
 
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