Kona Titanium Serial Number List - updated 19/07/22

Trev99

Retro Newbie
Update June-22

Pip is currently enjoying the great universal single-track. He had a great send-off which you can read about here: https://www.retrobike.co.uk/threads/phillip-pipmeister-mock-kona-guru-and-legend.443234/

His friendship is the greatest legacy he leaves us with but we must not forget the incredible resources and knowledge that he documented locally and shared here on retrobike, not least the Kona serial numbers and related information.

From today, I will administer the work he started. My current plan is to spend an hour a week updating the lists with any new entries or confirmed related data / information. The same criteria applies as before, so if you'd like to have your titanium Kona added to the list, please follow these steps before PMing with your details or questions:

1. Must be a titanium Kona Hei Hei, Hei Hei King Kahuna, Una, Score or Haole
2. Have an eligible serial number, found on the bottom of the bottom bracket
3. Provide photographic evidence, preferably as the current owner
4. Check the bike and serial number isn't already on the current list (note if the record was unconfirmed previously, new details are welcome)


Big thanks to John for helping configure this and as ever - a huge thank you - to all current and past Kona-heads including Pip. Without our collective knowledge, none of this would be possible 🥰

To make finding the lists and associated data a little easier, this first post will contain the master data.

Kona Hot: https://www.retrobike.co.uk/threads/kona-hot-serial-number-list-update-june-22.446740/
Kona Caldera: https://www.retrobike.co.uk/threads/kona-caldera-serial-number-list-update-june-2022.446749/
Kona Ku: https://www.retrobike.co.uk/threads/kona-ku-serial-number-list-update-june-2022.446754/

So without further ado...

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Kona Titanium Frame Serial Numbers.

Red - confirmed with picture, Blue - good source, but TBC, Black - only quoting from forum post or advert.

Hei Hei Frame Numbers 1990 - 1999:

1990:

The frames were welded at Merlin Metalworks Inc., but the Geometry was designed by Joe Murray and bikes were sold by The Bicycle Group. Listed as Kona Titanium in the 1990 Catalogue.

1345 - Built in January 1990.
1495 – c/w Merlin Head Tube, Down Tube and Seat Tube Decal with Titanium Top Tube Decal and Geometry by Joe Murray Decal on Chain Stay. Kona Top Tube and TBG Seat Tube Decal missing.

From 1991 to 2000, frames were welded by Titanium Sports Technologies (TST or Ti Sports) in Kennewick, Washington State. Historically, there has been much discussion regarding how the sequential serial numbers were issued over the different Kona sizes, or indeed other Manufactures. To date, I have one “B” prefix serial number repeated over two different sizes (i.e. serial number 14 used on a size 17” and a size 19” frame. Then one “B” prefix number repeated over the same size 18” frame (i.e., two 1995 frames with an identical serial number!), and nine post “B” prefix serial numbers that are repeated across different frame sizes or models:

1991:
B17001- Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle missing.
B17006 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle complete, original Decals.
B17009 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle complete.
B17010 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle missing, mix of ’97 / ’98 replica Decals.
Assured by e-Bay seller that the Serial Number is correct - they have previously posted twice on RB back in 2014.
B17014 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle complete.
B17021 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle missing, Blue solid Kona Decal. Verbal from former RB member.
B19005 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle missing, Disc Tab, No decals.
B19010 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle missing, Oval ‘K’ Kona Headtube Decal.
B19013 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle complete, from archived e-Bay listing.
B19014 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle complete, Oval ‘K’ Kona Headtube decal – c/w original invoice.
B19037 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle missing.
B19065 - Verbal via Anthony from e-Bay listing.
B19081 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube Extension, Rear Brake Noodle complete, Replica 1991 Decals.
B20031 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle complete.
B20054 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle complete.
B21022 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle complete original Down Tube and Joe Murray Decal – c/w original Invoice.

1992:
B17320 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle complete.
B17329 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension,Rear Brake Noodle missing, c/w 1994 Decals.
B19281 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle missing.
B19294 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle complete, Headtube Decal only.
B19342 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube, Rear Brake Noodle missing, Oval ‘K’ Kona Headtube Decal.
B19463 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle complete.
B19484 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle complete – bought new in May ’92.
B19493 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle complete, no Decals.
B20367 - Verbal from Anthony’s records.
B20370 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle missing.
B20372 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube, Rear Brake Noodle complete, no Decals.
B20374 - Pre-Bullet, Canti Bridge, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle refurbished.
B20433 - Pre-Bullet, no Canti Bridge - seller says removed :eek:, Long Seat Tube extension, Rear Brake Noodle missing.

This is my understanding of how Kona altered their frame size measuring method for their catalogue listing and sales:

All models from 1988 to 1992 - Actual Seat Tube length from the Top of Bottom Bracket shell to the Top of Seat Tube.

With the introduction of the Hei Hei in 1991 however, newly commissioned manufacturer TST were stamping these Hei Hei frames with the length taken from the Centre of the Bottom Bracket to the Top of the Seat Tube. This explains the absence of any 16” and 18” Hei Hei frames on the Serial Number List until 1993, as Kona would have listed and sold the Centre to Top 16” and 18” TST stamped frame as 15” and 17” respectively, but 15” and 17” were not available for the Hei Hei in their ’91 & ’92 catalogues:

I have several sales receipts that demonstrate the discrepancy between TST’s Serial Number stamping, and Kona’s catalogue listing and sales measuring method: e.g. Serial Number B21022 stamped on frame and documented on the sales receipt as Ser# B21022, but also documented and sold as size 20” on the sales receipt.

1993 onwards – Kona altered their frame size measuring method to be taken from the Centre of Bottom Bracket to Top of Seat Tube – see page 15 of the 1993 Catalogue for supplementary dimension “A” added to the diagram of the Frame Geometry.

1993:
BG16007 - Bullet, Short Seat Tube extension! Verbal from 24pouces.
BG16012 - Bullet, Long Seat Tube extension.
B17347 - Bullet, Long Seat Tube extension, genuine looking 1993 Decals.
BG18011 - Bullet (with no triangle cut-out), Long Seat Tube extension? Awaiting pictures of frame.
B.G.18014 - Bullet (with no triangle cut-out), Long Seat Tube extension.
BG18024 - Bullet referred to, but pictures now deleted via Photobucket.
B18105 - Bullet, Long Seat Tube extension.
B18136 - Bullet, Long Seat Tube extension.
B19497 - Pre-Bullet, No Canti Bridge!?!, Long Seat Tube extension. Possibly ’93 transition.
B19536 - Bullet, Long Seat Tube extension.
B19602 - Bullet, Long Seat Tube extension, 1994 Replica Decals.
B19655 - Bullet, Long Seat Tube extension, genuine looking ’94 Top & Down Tube Decals, Top Tube Cable Stop removed :eek: – evidence showing in picture!
B19666 - Bullet, Long Seat Tube extension, 1998 Downtube Decal.
B19667 - Bullet, with RB member’s measurements confirming that this is pre-suspension geometry, which confirms 1993.
B19684 - Bullet, Long Seat Tube extension, genuine looking 1993 Decals.
BG21030 - Bullet, Long Seat Tube extension, mixture of genuine looking 1993 & 1996 Decals.

1994:
B16054 - Bullet, Long Seat Tube Extension, added Top Tube Rear Brake Stop.
B16078 - Bullet, Long Seat Tube Extension,, ‘94 Kona Custom Decals, ’93 Headtube Decal.
B16090 - Bullet, Long Seat Tube Extension, pictures on file with original '94 Decals - now removed except Seat Tube Oval “K” 3-2.5 Titanium Tubing Decal.
B17409 - Short Seat Tube Extension, complete original ’94 Decals; confirmation of ’95 Geometry.
B17411 - Short Seat Tube Extension, Evidence of ’94 Silver Top Tube Hei Hei Decal, Orange and Silver ‘94 Headtube Decal, ’94/’95 3-2.5 Titanium Tubing Seat Tube Decal; confirmation of ’95 Geometry.
B18187 - Bullet, Long Seat Tube Extension.
B18196 - Bullet, Long Seat Tube Extension, '94 Seat Tube Decal & remainder '96.
B18235 - Bullet, Short Seat Tube Extension, genuine looking 1994 Decals, confirmation of ’95 Geometry.
B18240 - Verbal only, awaiting pictures. Short Seat Tube extension, c/w ’93 “Designed by Joe Murray” Decal.
B18263 - Bullet, Short Seat Tube Extension, were 1997 replica Decals, replaced with 1995 Decals; confirmation of ’95 Geometry.
B18272 - Bullet, Short Seat Tube Extension c/w Kona Custom and Head Tube Decal only; confirmation of ’95 Geometry.
B18319 - Bullet, Short Seat Tube extension, Genuine 1994 Decals, but with a duplicated Serial Number of a frame in Milwaukee! (Seen both simultaneously in the different countries – this one in South of France)
B18319 - Bullet, Short Seat Tube extension, 1 off 1995 replica Hei Hei Top Tube Decal (Font too tall), this duplicate Serial Number in Milwaukee to a frame in South of France – see above.
B19692 - Bullet, Long Seat Tube Extension, ’98 Decals.
B19762 - Bullet, Short Seat Tube Extension, replica 1994 decals; confirmation of ’95 Geometry.
B19783 - Bullet, Short Seat Tube Extension, replica 1994 decals; confirmation of ’95 Geometry.
B20515 - Bullet, Short Seat Tube Extension, Headtube Decal only; confirmation of ’95 Geometry.
B20527 - Bullet, Short Seat Tube Etension, traces of ’94 decals; confirmation of ’95 Geometry.

The 1995 catalogue shows the Hei Hei with a flatter Top Tube / shorter Seat Tube extension geometry, while the previous year’s 1994 catalogue shows the more traditional sloping Top Tube Kona geometry. It seems however that the short Seat Tube extension version was available both years.

Introduction of 17” frames to U.K. Catalogue.

1995:
B16138 - Short Seat Tube extension, 1995 Gold Decals.
B16184 - Picture now deleted, but flatter Top Tube referred to on RB thread.
B17436 - Short Seat Tube extension, c/w ’94 Decals - formerly ’93 Decals.
B17444 - Short Seat Tube extension (no picture – but figured out from quoted measurements).
B18328 - Short Seat Tube extension, 2002 Decals.
B18329 - Short Seat Tube extension, original 1995 Gold Decals.
B18347 - Short Seat Tube, Headtube Decal only.
B18404 - Short Seat Tube extension, Disc Tab – now removed, Top Tube Cable Guide drilled out, now c/w replica ‘94/5 Decals.
B19828 - Verbal only.
B19860 - Short Seat Tube extension, 1995 replica Decals.
B19901 - Short Seat Tube extension, c/w ’96 Decals (same 95/96 crossover as B20594?).
B19909 - Short Seat Tube extension, 1997 replica Decals.
B20529 - Short Seat Tube extension, 1995 Headtube Decal only.
B20538 - Short Seat Tube extension, No Decals.
B20545 - Short Seat Tube extension, genuine 1995 Decals.
B20559 - Short Seat Tube extension, No Decals.
B20594 - Short Seat Tube extension, c/w '96 decals - told it’s a 1995 build for the 1996 model year.

1996:
B17553 - Top Tube: 1996 style front & rear Stops for Rear Brake Cable, replica 1997 Yellow Decals.
B18440 - Top Tube: 1996 style front & rear Stops for Rear Brake Cable, no Decals.
B18448 - Top Tube: 1996 style front & rear Stops for Rear Brake Cable, Blue Decals.
B18471 - Top Tube: 1996 style front & rear Stops for Rear Brake Cable, one Blue Decal.
B18555 – verbal only from Bike Index.
B19929 - Top Tube: 1996 style front & rear Stops for Rear Brake Cable, Blue Decals.
B19985 - Top Tube: 1996 style front & rear Stops for Rear Brake Cable, 1997 Blue Decals.
B19997 – Verbal from Anthony’s records.

1997:
B17577 - Early Downtube Rear Mech Routing, Yellow Decals.
B18571 – Early Downtube Rear Mech Routing, Yellow Decals.
B18589 - Early Downtube Rear Mech Routing, 1999 Decals.
B18595 – Early Downtube Rear Mech Routing, Yellow Decals.
B18597 - Verbal only.
B18609 - Early Downtube Rear Mech Routing, Yellow Decals.
B19941 - Later Top tube Rear Mech Routing, Blue Decals – Sales Invoice 24th July 1997.
B20636 – Later Top tube Rear Mech Routing, Yellow Decals.
B20638 - Later Top tube Rear Mech Routing, Orange 1997 then 1998 Decals.

Una S.S.
Apparently raffled off at an Interbike Show with the proceeds going to IMBA, this one off Single Speed version of a Hei Hei Frame has a 1997 sequential Serial Number:
B18607 - Single Speed Dropouts, Single Top Tube Brake Stops front & rear, 1998 Decals, Top half painted Lime Green

1998:
KH20012 – Verbal only from MTBR member, no picture.
KH19016 – Verbal only.
KH18022 - Original Decals complete.
KH18047 - Painted top 2/3 Lime Green, Original Decals complete.
KH18049 - 1998 Headtube, Seat Tube and "Handmade Made In U.S.A." Decals, with replica ‘95 Decals Down Tube and Top Tube Decals.

1999:
KH20021 – Evidence of Red Paint stripped from Headtube, Seat Tube Decal only.
KH17032 – Red Painted Head Tube, Thumbs Up, Titanium Seat Tube and Head Tube Decals only.
KH17039 – Red Painted Head Tube possibly “scraped away” to form flames, Seat Tube & Head Tube Decals only.
KH19048 – Claimed evidence of removed Red paint inside Headtube & original ‘99 owner’s handbook, Replica 1998 Decals c/w 1997 Kona Custom decal. verbal from RadNomad.
KH20056 - Picture of Serial Number only.
KH20057 - Unpainted Headtube, Red Go Faster Decals, Disc Tab.
KH17063 - Unpainted Headtube, Red Go Faster Decals.
KH20071 - Unpainted Headtube, Headtube and Seat Tube Decals only.
KH17078 - Unpainted Headtube, No Decals.
KH18085 - Unpainted Headtube, evidence of Red Painted Head Tube on front Cable Stops and inside Head Tube, c/w replica 1997 Yellow King Kahuna Decals.
KH19096 – Unpainted Headtube, Red Go Faster Decals, Verbal only from MTBR member.
KH19099 – Unpainted Headtube, Headtube Decal only.
KH19101 – Unpainted Headtube (sandblasted), No Decals.
KH18114 – Verbal only from Bike Index.
KH18119 - Unpainted Headtube, Red 1998 style Decals.
KH18120 - Unpainted Headtube, Red Go Faster Decals.
KH18135 - Unpainted Headtube, Red Go Faster Decals.
KH19142 – Unpainted Headtube, Red Go Faster Decals.
KH19146 – Unpainted Headtube, Red Go Faster Decals.

The King Kahuna was introduced in 1996, but that year’s model was unique with its’ 6Al – 4V rear triangle. These have same B prefix as the ’91-‘97 Hei Hei, but the 3 digit serial number has a suffix of “-64”. They also share the same round 3Al - 2.5v tubing Front Triangle as the 1994/5 Hei Hei with no gussets and the flatter Top Tube / Shorter Seat Tube extension geometry.

King Kahuna Frame Numbers 1996 – 2000:

1996 6-4:

B17492-64 - Short Seat Tube extension, Gold Decals.
B17495-64 - Short Seat Tube extension, Gold Decals.
B17501-64 - Short Seat Tube extension, Head Tube and “Thumbs Up” Decals only.
B17512-64 - Short Seat Tube extension, Original Gold Decals replaced with almost period correct Gold Decals.
B18418-64 - Short Seat Tube extension, No Decals.
B18428-64 - Short Seat Tube extension, Disc Tab, No Decals.
B18433-64 - Short Seat Tube extension, Blue Decals.
B19872-64 - Short Seat Tube extension, Gold Decals.
B19893-64 - Short Seat Tube extension, Gold Decals.
B19900-64 - Short Seat Tube extension, One Piece Disc Tab, Blue Seat Stay Decals, Blue ‘97 Headtube Decal, remainder Orange replica 1997.
B19903-64 - Short Seat Tube extension, Blue Decals.
B20561-64 - Short Seat Tube extension, Gold Decals
B20563-64 - Short Seat Tube extension, Gold Decals.
B20565-64 - Short Seat Tube extension, Gold Decals.
B20577-64 - Short Seat Tube, Partly obscured, but likely to be 577 – one piece Disc Tab, No Decals.
B20604-64 - Short Seat Tube, 1999 Hei Hei Decals

1997:
K18003 - Downtube Rear Mech Routing, Yellow Decals.
K16007 – Downtube Rear Mech Routing, Blue Decals.
K19009 - Downtube Rear Mech Routing, verbal on RB.
K19011 - Downtube Rear Mech Routing, Yellow Decals, purchased new 21/11/96.
K19015 - Downtube Rear Mech Routing, Yellow Decals.
K20019 – Verbal from andrewl.
K17021 - Downtube Rear Mech Routing, Team Rasta Flame - Leslie Greene or Tomlinson 17”, Yellow Decals.
K18031 - Downtube Rear Mech Routing, Blue Decals.
K17038 - Downtube Rear Mech Routing, added Disc Tab, 2000 Down Tube, Seat Tube & Headtube Decals with ‘96 Seat Stay 6-4 Jungle Decal in white/silver on Top Tube.
K1704# - Downtube Rear Mech Routing.
K19041 - Downtube Rear Mech Routing, ‘99 Decals Blue edge, Disc Tab.
K19049 – Verbal only.
K19063 - Downtube Rear Mech Routing, Blue Decals.
K19065 – Downtube Rear Mech Routing, Disc Tab, Replica 1997 Decals.
K18066 - All Top Tube Routing, Stars ‘n’ Bars, Blue Decals.
K18073 - All Top Tube Routing, Blue Decals.
K19087 - All Top Tube Routing, Yellow Decals.
K19088 - All Top Tube Routing, Disc Tab formerly Blue Decals, now 1999 Decals.

1998:
KK17000 – No Decals.
KK18001 – No original Decals - a collage of “Splatter K” Logos, and sprayed Kona Down Tube Decal in 2006 Stencil Font.
KK20001 - Original Decals complete.
KK17005 - Verbal from e-Bay advert.
KK19016 – Top and Downtube Decals missing.
KK16026 – Disc Tab & Seat Stay Cable Guide, full set of replica 1998 Decals c/w Kona Custom.
KK19026 - Original Decals complete.
KK20030 – Verbal from bestmtb.
KK20031 – Original Decals complete.
KK19033 - Factory Team Decal on Seat Tube.
KK19038 - Verbal from Anthony via e-Bay advert.
KK20039 – Disc Tab & Seat Stay Cable Guide, 2001 Downtube & Headtube Decals.
KK19047 - 1998 Top Tube Decal c/w 1999 Downtube Decal, now Orange 1998 style Decals.
KK19048 - Craigslist advert.
KK18053 - Verbal on RB.
KK19053 - Disc Tab, 1998 Kona Downtube Decal & Hei Hei Top Tube Decal c/w extra Black and White King Kahuna Jungle logo Decal & Sliver 6-4 Decal on Seat stay, with Silver “King” Decal on Downtube near Thumbs Up Decal with another on the Headtube, 1996 Spiral Headtube Decal.
KK19058 – Disc Tab & Seat Stay Cable Guide, No Decals.

1999:
KK16005 - Painted Headtube, Orange Go Faster Decals.
KK17009 - Painted Headtube, Orange Go Faster Decals.
KK17043 - Painted Headtube, Orange Go Faster Decals.
KK18026 - Unpainted Headtube, Orange Go Faster Decals.
KK18039 - Blue painted Headtube, Orange Go Faster Decals.
KK19054 - Unpainted Headtube, Orange Go Faster Decals.
KK18062 - Unpainted Headtube, Orange Go Faster Decals, Top Tube Decal now Missing.
KK20064 - Unpainted Headtube, Orange Go Faster Decals, Disc Tab.
KK19066 - Unpainted Headtube, Orange Go Faster Decals.
KK19067 - Unpainted Headtube, Orange Go Faster Decals.
KK19070 - Unpainted Headtube, Orange Go Faster Decals.

2000:
Despite featuring in the 2000 catalogue, it appears that this model was not available. JP Saville who ran Second Level Sport, the UK distributor, cannot recall importing any.
To date, I have not seen any pictures of a 2000 King Kahuna in the wild.
Read here

Score Frame Numbers 2000:
Production of the Score was halted mid-season, allegedly due to the cost of producing the frame. Dan Capek at Kona told me that if he had to guess, between 20 and 50 Score frames were built.

Another source however that seems more certain, said that 100 Score frames were made. Fifty 15’’, Forty 17'' and Ten 17'' - long (longer top tube).

The 18” frame was never documented in any of the Kona Spec – only 15”, 17” and 17” Long - or Small, Medium & Long. Nevertheless, I now own one in 18”, and I’ve seen one more 18” Score for sale in the U.S. in an old Pinkbike advert, which may possibly be mine before it came to the U.K.

KS15003 - Verbal from Anthony via e-Bay advert, no picture.
KS15004 – Original Decals complete.
KS15006 – No Decals.
KS15020 - Original Decals complete.
KS15022 - Original Seat Tube Decal, 2001 Down Tube Decal – now removed.
KS17083 - Original Decals complete.
KS17084 - Original Decals complete.
KS17088 - Verbal on RB via e-Bay advert.
KS17090 – Seat Tube and Head Tube Decals only.
KS17094 - Original Decals complete.
KS17098 – Photo of Serial Number only.
KS18170 – Replica Seat Tube Decal, remaining original Decals complete.

It would appear that my 18” frame was not part of the documented production run, which may explain its high serial number.

Haole Frame Numbers 1992 – 1994:

1992:
Three Cable Guides along top of Top Tube (for Cable Outer), Integrated Seat Tube clamp at rear. Pre-Bullet Dropouts.
B57002 - Pre-Bullet, Integral Seat Post Clamp, 1” Headtube.
B57020 - Pre-Bullet, Seat Post Binder visible in pictures – possibly in addition to Integral Clamp?
B57025 - Pre-Bullet, Integral Seat Post Clamp, 1” Headtube.
B55041 - Pre-Bullet, Integral Seat Post Clamp.
B55084 - Quoted on RB, 1" Headtube.

1993: Cable Stops front and rear along lower LHS of Top Tube, Bullet Dropouts, Seat Post Binder Collar c/w rear slot.
B59531 – Bullet, Seat Post Binder, 1" Headtube.
B59537 - Bullet, Seat Post Binder.

1994: Cable Stops front and rear along lower LHS of Top Tube, Bullet Dropouts, Seat Post Binder Collar c/w rear slot.
B55081 – Verbal from e-Bay. I assume that the “0” could possibly be a “6” (see below), which would make more sense regarding the dating of a 1994 frame. A rare painted example, with genuine looking 1994 Decals and a bit of Ti exposed. The Bottom Bracket area is painted, which may have filled in the digits causing the owner to mistake a 6 for a 0.

To Be Continued, Pip...
I’m delighted you are carrying on this great legacy. I did download pips list locally and have added a couple of frame numbers but just couldn’t add the discerning descriptions he did. Well done you.
 

Warhorse

Dirt Disciple
I haven’t read through all 29 pages, and this is more road related… but I’m trying to figure out dating two titanium Kona Haole frames I have…

for years I’ve had B55044 a 55cm with integrated seat binder clamp, takes a clamp on front derailleur and solid drop outs. This one I’ve always assumed was 93ish?

I recently bought another mistakenly thinking it was the same size. It’s a 53cm with serial B53545, and it takes a seat binder collar, has a front derailleur brazed on hanger, and sports cut always on the drop outs… I’m assuming this must be a later model?

Just noticing my built one also has continuous top tube cable routing while the smaller frame has housing stops on the lower non drive side of the top tube…
 

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Mortonm

Kona Fan
Someone who knows more about the Haole will likely chime in but I think they only made them for 2 or 3 years.
 

Trev99

Retro Newbie
I haven’t read through all 29 pages, and this is more road related… but I’m trying to figure out dating two titanium Kona Haole frames I have…

for years I’ve had B55044 a 55cm with integrated seat binder clamp, takes a clamp on front derailleur and solid drop outs. This one I’ve always assumed was 93ish?

I recently bought another mistakenly thinking it was the same size. It’s a 53cm with serial B53545, and it takes a seat binder collar, has a front derailleur brazed on hanger, and sports cut always on the drop outs… I’m assuming this must be a later model?

Just noticing my built one also has continuous top tube cable routing while the smaller frame has housing stops on the lower non drive side of the top tube…
Decals look 92 but 94 looks like similar rear dropouts and fits roughly with pips frame numbers for other sizes. Defo I'm not an expert but his post looks similar. https://www.retrobike.co.uk/threads/kona-haole-titanium-94.350298/

Looks roughly my size at 5 ft 6 so interested in buying if you are UK.

Trev
 

al-onestare

BoTM Winner
Kona Fan
It's amazing what you'll find on page 1, post 1 😚 🙃

Haole Frame Numbers 1992 – 1994:

1992:
Three Cable Guides along top of Top Tube (for Cable Outer), Integrated Seat Tube clamp at rear. Pre-Bullet Dropouts.
B57002 - Pre-Bullet, Integral Seat Post Clamp, 1” Headtube.
B57020 - Pre-Bullet, Seat Post Binder visible in pictures – possibly in addition to Integral Clamp?
B57025 - Pre-Bullet, Integral Seat Post Clamp, 1” Headtube.
B55041 - Pre-Bullet, Integral Seat Post Clamp.
B55084 - Quoted on RB, 1" Headtube.

1993: Cable Stops front and rear along lower LHS of Top Tube, Bullet Dropouts, Seat Post Binder Collar c/w rear slot.
B59531 – Bullet, Seat Post Binder, 1" Headtube.
B59537 - Bullet, Seat Post Binder.

1994: Cable Stops front and rear along lower LHS of Top Tube, Bullet Dropouts, Seat Post Binder Collar c/w rear slot.
B55081 – Verbal from e-Bay. I assume that the “0” could possibly be a “6” (see below), which would make more sense regarding the dating of a 1994 frame. A rare painted example, with genuine looking 1994 Decals and a bit of Ti exposed. The Bottom Bracket area is painted, which may have filled in the digits causing the owner to mistake a 6 for a 0.

So,

for years I’ve had B55044 a 55cm with integrated seat binder clamp, takes a clamp on front derailleur and solid drop outs. This one I’ve always assumed was 93ish?

I recently bought another mistakenly thinking it was the same size. It’s a 53cm with serial B53545, and it takes a seat binder collar, has a front derailleur brazed on hanger, and sports cut always on the drop outs… I’m assuming this must be a later model?

Just noticing my built one also has continuous top tube cable routing while the smaller frame has housing stops on the lower non drive side of the top tube…

B55044 put it's firmly in the 1992 production range, just 3 ahead of known B55041, and the description is a match.

B53545 is a 1993 based on your description and SN, just 7 ahead of known B59537.

Thanks for sharing, I'll add these tomorrow when I update the lists.
 

Warhorse

Dirt Disciple
Thank you very much for highlighting those points for me! That definitely answers my questions!
@Trev99 the frame and myself are located over in Vancouver BC!
 

Matttymm

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Hi al, this popped up on ebay today, might be worth a question to see if they'll share the serial number?


Matt
There is no serial number on it. Checked with the seller.
 
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