Holdsworth Special maybe ?

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Holdsworth Special ?
Was told it was late 70’s poss 79 ?? I’m thinking 1980 going by frame number but I’m just a Holdsworth newbie so any info is welcome
Large frame 60cm seat tube and a mixture of components , bought it from a guy near me , he said he got it from Rotrax cycles in Shirley (Southampton) they built it up for him , they had stopped making there own frames so he chose this instead .

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keithglos

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The other number is a Southampton post code.
The whole bike looks early 1970s, long Campagnolo ends etc., and looks like a Holdsworthy frame, so the frame number is a bit of a mystery.
If it was made as "own name" for the trade it would probably not have had a head badge.

Keith
 

scooter

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Thanks Keith , yeah I realised the other stamp was the postcode of the previous owner , he did say he thought it was around 50 yrs old but couldnt remember exactly when he bought it .
Did you manage to date it by the stamp number ?
 

keithglos

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dwscrimshaw has collected a vast list of known frame numbers for WF Holdsworth and Holdsworthy. His list makes yours 1980, but too me it just looks a few years older. As The Holdsworthy Company were in decline they could have made a frame with old Campagnolo ends, or they could have been specified.

Keith
 

torqueless

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Yes a late '70s- early '80s Holdsworth Special. The components look to be original and will have date codes too, possibly from the year before the frame.

Keith- This frame is from a time when you would have to pay what you might call: "The Professional premium" for a db frame with 16" chainstays and 39" wheelbase, which by this date would also come with "short" Campag dropouts.

Frames with 17" chainstays would still use the old "long" dropouts.
 

Midlife

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It's after 1978 as it has brazed on top tube guides, after 82 I think the rear mech cable went under BB. Here's a 1981 special.

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scooter

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Brilliant information guys , I’m amazed :LOL: and pleased .

So I couldn’t wait to give a strip down and start cleaning it up , I’ll be using all the original components again apart from new bar tape, brake pads and possibly tyres oh and also hoods if I can find some decent ones ??
It’s coming up nicely , there’s a couple more dates shown on the crank arm and Calipers

Im in two minds wether to try and remove the lug lining which the previous owner done , he also added his initials MW on the top of the rear seat stays.
 

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Nice when the dates align isn’t it? December ‘79 for the cranks, January ‘80 for the braked & a 1980 frame prediction.

I think I’d T-cut the lug lining and replace the special sticker with something a little more stylish from H Lloyds cycles. (It’s the wrong style, wrong colour and it’s on wonky)
 

scooter

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Yeah I was dubious about those special decals , I’ll get the correct ones , and yes I’ll give the lug lining a go with t-cut , it’s nice to get things back to orig. ;)
 

torqueless

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That's a nice collection of components too- Campag seatpin (or SR copy?) SR Royal cranks and stem, Crane rear mech, Milremo Pro saddle..
 
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