Claud Butler frame number identification

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Hello and welcome.
Frame number 061674. it’s from 1984.
Here’s a link to that years catalogue with spec sheet.
Next job, start a restoration/build thread in the readers bikes section. 5892DFD4-154E-4E3A-802C-E52625118832.jpeg
 

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Thanks Peachy, and will do as you suggest. I’m hoping to document (at least) the electric conversion in detail.
 

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As you can see this was made by the Holdsworthy Company, and could be mid 1970s. The original wheels would have had 48 spokes, I have no idea of the strength of your wheels. A tandem has far more stress on the front wheel.

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As you can see this was made by the Holdsworthy Company, and would be mid 1970s. The original wheels would have had 48 spokes, I have no idea of the strength of your wheels. A tandem has far more stress on the front wheel.

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@keithglos Holdsworthy didn’t start the Majestic series until 1977, the tandem not until 1979. This one is definitely 1984
 

Bilunt

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As you can see this was made by the Holdsworthy Company, and could be mid 1970s. The original wheels would have had 48 spokes, I have no idea of the strength of your wheels. A tandem has far more stress on the front wheel.

Keith
Thanks Keith, the wheels and tires have been my main concern since I picked the bike up. They seem hardly suitable for the weight they're expected to carry (though we're probably less than average weight between the wife and I) and offer a pretty harsh ride even over fairly smooth bitumen. I'm not sure what to replace them with yet - I've yet to decide how far from "original" I'll take the bike, but it seems they were fitted with a wide variety of hardware anyway so perhaps I shouldn't worry too much.
 

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Any ideas on what this CB is on Retrobike?

Looks older than what is suggested with the design, pencil stays, fork crown and lugs.
 

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Any ideas on what this CB is on Retrobike?

Looks older than what is suggested with the design, pencil stays, fork crown and lugs.
It's clearly not a low end machine, just one that's been dressed up like an 80's Claud. The metal head badge was never produced in those colours so has definitely been repainted in the post 1976 colour scheme. if the silver elements are actually raw aluminium rather than silver paint then the badge at least would be the high end aluminium version used pre 1956.
As for the bike? I need better photos and also a photo of the badge number, 51400 could be 1967 or it could be either 1935 or 45 (5) January (1) production count 400.
Somethings niggling me about those cutaway lugs, just can't put my finger on it.....
@Midlife can you ask if it has a straight or arched/curved brake bridge?
Straight would be pre 1956 and post 1976.
Curved would be 1959-1976.
 
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RFS21

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Hello, need a bit help to identify this Claud. I bought it some years ago and pre owner sold it as an 1950 Super Velo. Frame number is 506 3159 (June, 1950, number 3159 if I understand right). The orignal colour was purple or aubergine but very fadet and a lot of rust. The fork crown, the front and back fork blades (10cm) was chromed, but as good as no longer preserved. Wheel size is 26". Decals was also heavily fadet or completely gone. I restored in the best way as I could see from the original frame (lining and decals) only the chrome was too expensive for me (sadly I lost the pics from the original state of the frame at an laptop crash three years ago) ....now my point, I checked several times the catalogues at Nigels wounderful page, but I never became sure that is really an Super Velo, always details dosent fit..... perhaps someone from the Claud specialists here can help shed a little more light on this frame......Ah frame number match on frame and fork.... Thank's Ronald
 

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Hello Ronald, nice frame.
It’s got what was called in 1951 the Continental Classique lugs, but of course this model used 27” wheels.
We unfortunately don’t have the 1950 catalogue to add to Normans website yet. And until we do we can’t be sure, but during this period (1948-56) there are a number of occasions where I bike kept the same name but changed a bunch of details that year.
So this may well be the 1950’s version of the Super Vello, or maybe they made a 26” version of the Continental Classique, just not advertised it.
 
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