Category X-Orange Formula.

[brocklanders023]

Knew there was a reason I kept logging on here! Welcome back mate, she's shaping up to be a beaut!!!!

 

[sinnerman]

The best things come to those who wait (and build old mountain bikes using very tasty components!)

Stunning as ever Carl! Love XC9000 and the other choices you have made!

Thank you.

It was a so nice to have the Overburys back after Nicks Ownership, his choices were perfect in my eyes, which really did cement the direction for me on Orange in the end I think.

The Overburys advert too, a fun part, whether myth or Legend, Overburys made a statement and with the best of British Humor and gave us some fabulous adverts, that too this day still resonate.

So with the Orange being recovered, the formula name and its meaning, i wondered if it was possible to have the opposite build to the
XT Overburys..? Suntour was the choice as campag had been done, as you know.

Looking at the choices available at the time, pickings were slim, and most of the spec for this is very very well used, and sometimes second or third attempt because most of the stuff that's affordable and spec correct is worn out.

So I'm confident there's plenty of room for improvement yet.

 

[sinnerman]

Knew there was a reason I kept logging on here! Welcome back mate, she's shaping up to be a beaut!!!!

Hey Brocks, Hope your well.

Its your opinion with this, that matters, and you, I come too when I don't know with all things Orange. (thank you again).

Difficult choice Suntour really, this frame is on the cusp of the Shimano launch of 21spd Hyperglyde,
Suntour was a little behind, thankfully we can still find road stuff that is available, or thats what I hoped for.

Long story of broken/ worn out parts, but discovering the Black flag Cranks on an Old Brochure in the Archives was a revelation, I only ever saw silver.

It was also nice to see the IRD Stroker, in the thread, its shows what was happening and how we were thinking back then with such limited supply of components in a relatively new market.

Having the word Formula and its true meaning of "any Choice of components you wish", and then trying to remain age correct,
and show a level of quality to rival the Overburys,
and be Non Shimano and Black...... wasn't just hard it was mental 35 years later.

I can see some details and room for improvement already, and I think only time will allow for them..., but looking at this thread I think 6 years is long enough for now.

 

[baron von greenback]

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With a Matching Fillet Brazed and hand Filed Tange Prestige Fork to match, along with a Race Colour that would forever live in Infamy.

The Colaberation Gave us the "Orange Formula".View attachment 470629

I never seen one of these before are these rare and a build in there own right like c16 etc

 

[baron von greenback]

I just read the whole thread plenty of info i always thought them tushinghams reminded me of oranges excelant build mate one of the nicest i have seen now i know there rare haha

 

[sinnerman]

Frame-Tange Prestige Fillet Brazed frame, rear U brake fitting with X-Brace
Fork-Tange Prestige fillet brazed fork.
Front Brake-Scott Penderson Self Energizing front Cantilever
Rear brake-Scott Penderson Self Energizing rear U brake.
Brake Pads- Winwood Composite
Tyres- Panaracer TImbuk IIs

 

[raidan73]

Love that rear brake Carl. I have a couple to fit on a build. Are they easy enough to set-up?

 

[sinnerman]

Love that rear brake Carl. I have a couple to fit on a build. Are they easy enough to set-up?

Hey Adrian, I wish I had known, this was toast really, I couldn't find another anywhere, so fettled this one as best as I could, but I think out of the box they are easy enough, i really like Self Energizing brakes, with a four finger lever, 2mm cable and Winwood Pads and an the X-Brace on this, they are deadly.

 

[raidan73]

Hey Adrian, I wish I had known, this was toast really, I couldn't find another anywhere, so fettled this one as best as I could, but I think out of the box they are easy enough, i really like Self Energizing brakes, with a four finger lever, 2mm cable and Winwood Pads and an the X-Brace on this, they are deadly.

Those Winwood pads aren't easy to find now, are they? I got lucky with the brakes a few years ago

 

[sinnerman]

Those Winwood pads aren't easy to find now, are they? I got lucky with the brakes a few years ago

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Probably a good job I didn't know you had them, I would have tried to deal.

God they look lovely.

The Winwood pads are great as long as any anodized surface has been bedded in, until then they can be a little scary, thankfully the rims used for this had been used previously, but scoring the brake pad surface will help.

I think the SE brake was a good choice for this build, Suntour had the Roller cam, but there wasn't enough clearance to fit anyway.
The Scott Penderson brake seemed like a good choice, it was black and fitted and i think the following year Suntour did the the Deal to License the design to use in there groupset, and it was available here at the time.