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...shell, a ringer for what mine used to look like, before the shell was replaced. A few years back I was futilely exploring the possibility that K*****R meant "frame built for Ken Ryall," So here is some confirmation. (Confirmation which has been there at that site for five years, which shows...

What would we do without dads and their tobacco tins eh? This one is 1/4" BSF too..🙂

You could also try PMing bduc61 on here, our (erstwhile?) resident Frenchman- dunno if he's still around.. he has some great threads on French stuff, back in the archives too..🙂

...fork blades. OP said the forks were Vitus, and showed us a frame tube stamped 'butted' in an earlier thread, which is almost certainly Reynolds*. I don't think that English word would get stamped into a French or Italian tube, although I'm happy to be corrected on that point. 2)Bertin seem to...

You probably need to abandon hope of 'definitive'. Just over three years ago I identified this to you on here as likely being a Bertin cyclocross...probably early '70s. I probably should have done so without the sarcasm... (story of my life.) The people who could give you a definitive answer...

I disagree. 80s Holdsworth Special is just like this, (lugs apart) using the same fork crown and bb shell. I don't think those 'pantographed' top-eyes were in evidence on British frames before the '80s, or at least the late '70s?

I don't know how much lighter SL was than DB, but fwiw I have a 23" c-t 531db frame which weighs 2075g, the forks weigh 750g- more or less 6lb all in, in old money.

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You should probably remove the 'h' from 'Whitcomb' in the text on your homepage though, curyam. Whitcomb was a contemporaneous Liverpool framebuilder with no business connection (afaik) to Witcomb in Deptford Sarf London..

Sorry I don't remember a board called "Red" anything! I was fortunate(?) enough to be able to get myself to Alpine Sports at the time.. could barely afford anything in there though.. turned out I was crap at skateboarding anyway..🙂

Try searching for "flyer" skateboard.

It's a bit academic these days. From memory, apart from uphill, It's where I psych myself up to stretch to the hoods, deluding myself that I'm going fast enough that I might need to apply the brakes..🙂

We seem to be at communicational loggerheads. I say 'tops'.. you say 'yes just to the hoods'. That's about 5cm different... and the not-so-subtle sub-text of my post was that bike fit hasn't come any way at all in forty+ years. Why would it?.🙂

Yeah but road bikes with drop bars have three distinct hand positions- tops, hoods and drops. Which are you measuring to? Fwiw both my bikes (mtb 30+ years old & road bike 40+ years old) measure up pretty close to this 'rad' thing. (if road bike is measured to tops.)

There's a thread currently on page 8 of 'Retro Classic Road' sub-forum here. If you post your frame number there dwscrimshaw might give you his opinion as to which year your frame was built. There will be date-codes on components as well, assuming they are original equipment? A nice frame, which...

'Twas the most cheerful blue known to man..🙂

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In the 1970s/80s the rough 'n' ready formula was: Seat tube (c-t) = inside leg minus 11 inches.