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 Post subject: 853 IF Deluxe US$300
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:15 pm 
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0280727298

Says 19" but that C-T, and the TT tube is 23.. Sounds/looks like an 18" to me..

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:42 pm 
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Why do people photograph their frames nose-down? They look far better balanced on bb and dropouts.

I find it hard to understand how a frame of that size, with such fat tubes and a gusset could possibly weigh as little as 3.85lbs. Tubes weigh what they weigh, and having an excellent firm of welders join them up doesn't make them weigh any less. I have two 853 frames, both in smaller sizes and with much skinnier tubes and they weigh 4.25 and 4.35.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:44 pm 
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AND THE WEIGHT IS 3.85 POUNDS AS PICTURED


They weigh less when you picture them nose down - didn't you know.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:02 pm 
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mmmm looks good whatever way you look at it 8)


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:41 pm 
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Anthony wrote:
Why do people photograph their frames nose-down? They look far better balanced on bb and dropouts.

I find it hard to understand how a frame of that size, with such fat tubes and a gusset could possibly weigh as little as 3.85lbs. Tubes weigh what they weigh, and having an excellent firm of welders join them up doesn't make them weigh any less. I have two 853 frames, both in smaller sizes and with much skinnier tubes and they weigh 4.25 and 4.35.


My '95 17" Tangé Prestige custom drawn Moron tubed Ibis weighs in at 3.9lbs

On the other hand: My '01 Ibis Mojo (Deda tubes) weighs 4.3lbs

Most of the time the chainstays are not the same material and S-bend ones are havier... There can also be a lot of weight in the BB shell and head tube.

BITD Vertigo made steel frames that were just 3lbs...

...and I didn't mention the Reynolds 953 tube set yet.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:44 pm 
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clockworkgazz wrote:
mmmm looks good whatever way you look at it 8)


I have to agree with you there buddy. :D


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:50 pm 
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I know of a virtually unridden 19" steel deluxe with Disc tabs and suspension corrected if anyone is interested? PM me for price


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:55 pm 
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MadCowKev wrote:
I know of a virtually unridden 19" steel deluxe with Disc tabs and suspension corrected if anyone is interested? PM me for price


If it was an 18" I would.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:28 am 
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any idea what year this bike would be from??


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:45 am 
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nporternz wrote:
any idea what year this bike would be from??


I'd say a 97/98, maybe a 99. At least going by the IFs I've owned.

I had an if more beat than this one here, and it sold on ebay for around $275 in a NR auction, so this seems like a good price.


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