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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:55 pm 
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Following on from my 'Cycling Aids' thread, this is just one of the gems found. As I've mentioned before on various threads, Alans were glued and screwed and this advert describes how it was done.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:43 pm 
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Interesting read. Thank you!

Fine to have that clear:

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, these frames are choosen for their ride qualities and toughness.

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Cheers Ned. A ride on mine is in order soon then. What date is the mag you got that out of? Those pencil line drawings could be of my bike. They are identical in every way. How often did the Alan design/finishing change?


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Cheers Ned. A ride on mine is in order soon then. What date is the mag you got that out of? Those pencil line drawings could be of my bike. They are identical in every way. How often did the Alan design/finishing change?


Get out there! It won't fall apart under you - or at least it shouldn't!

Going by the dates of the World Champions (Gevers was Amateur Road Champ in '75) I would say the date was in the late-ish 70's?

I don't think the design changed much at all over the years. A case of 'if it works why change it' I suppose. Not like today when we get a 'new' model each year.

I think I know where there is a Cyclo-Cross version hanging in an old mate's garage. Used to be his son's. Trouble is his son his very tall so it will probably be to big for me. He also has a Duralinox which is my size.

EDIT - just been looking in the 'Aids' files and found another page of Alan info. This is dated '81 and the other page above is dated '76. This gives all the sizing info and also mentions other versions including one with a different seat cluster arrangement. It doesn't mention the 'Cross version though which is rather odd.


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Found this pic via Classic Rendezvous which seems to be one of the 'Super' frames with the different seat cluster and cut-out lugs.

http://cyclesdeoro.com/Cirque_2009_Thur ... _0079.html

A lot of other lovely stuff on this as well from the 2009 Cirque de Cyclisme.


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Interesting read

My current road-Alan is like the Super model described. My bike is called 'Super Record' to be exactly. The Guerciotti cross model I owned was more like the Competition, with bolted stays.

Pic 1: Super Record road, showing cut outs, in case of my bike painted black
Pic 2: idem, now also showing aero stays
Pic 3: cross model with bolted stays

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On the largest classified site overhere I now spot a cross frame with detailling like the Super (Record), so with cut outs in the lugs and streamlined tail. 'Super Cross'? So that excists too.

Derivative for Colnago >>

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..and there was also with aluminum tubing and in cross edition. Actually it looks like ALAN is more or less the race/cross equivilent of Verlicchi with their early DH mountainbikes. Both Italians relied on and pioneered with al, conquered titles and supplied their design, with or without some modifications, to multiple other brands.


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Top information that, thanks. Interesting to see the variations that were available.

Now I know why Colnago's go so well - they have a gearbox!


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Hi,

I got the page of the Bulgier site. More of the English in the Colnago catalogues is not so good. I would think it would have kept me from buying from them. If they already can't get that right in their official communication, what to expect from a complicated structure as a frame that needs attention to detail and dedication.

The Al tubing one > here

I realize I'll soon have to make my Alan ready for a photoshoot :)


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Joined because I have an Alan and this is great info.


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