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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:06 pm 
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....oh the tings to do on a rainy Sunday.

Thing is of course, the answer lies at TST. We have no idea how many Konas, DBRs, Mongoose, Kents, Deans, etc. were
produced. From a TST point, 3 digits were probably sufficient for their batch and production line management, and they
probably would have warrantied any claim from Kona or whoever with little discussion.

Kona et el would only get the same serial number twice if it was the same brand, (same model) and same size
and just so happened to be exactly the n + 1000 frame. A very slim chance based on the quantities we are talking about.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:15 pm 
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I think you have hit on a likely explanation there.

When I last contacted Kona, the chap I mentioned earlier told me something quite interesting. I was asking if he knew why my Score frame had such a high serial number as he had already confirmed that only a maximum of 50 were ever produced. My Score’s frame number is KS18170, and I have now also seen KS17094.

His reply was; Quote, “Titanium Sports may have just put all the numbers in a sequence and only changed the prefix to denote the size and model of the bikes that year.”


So as you have suggested, it could be that the chap at Kona meant that the “prefix to donate the size and model of the bikes that year” included all manufactures that TST welded frames for.

No wonder we could never figure out the year of a Hei Hei from the serial number!

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:28 pm 
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pipmeister wrote:
I think you have hit on a likely explanation there.

When I last contacted Kona, the chap I mentioned earlier told me something quite interesting. I was asking if he knew why my Score frame had such a high serial number as he had already confirmed that only a maximum of 50 were ever produced. My Score’s frame number is KS18170, and I have now also seen KS17094.

His reply was; Quote, “Titanium Sports may have just put all the numbers in a sequence and only changed the prefix to denote the size and model of the bikes that year.”


So as you have suggested, it could be that the chap at Kona meant that the “prefix to donate the size and model of the bikes that year” included all manufactures that TST welded frames for.

No wonder we could never figure out the year of a Hei Hei from the serial number!

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....and that is what catalogues are for right :wink:

Now finding those is of course another topic. Blatant thread hijack warning :!: Anyone with the DBR catalogues
who can do a good scan will be a Saint.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:49 pm 
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Here,s my HeiHei number ,whats it mean?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:03 pm 
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Blimey! We never know what is going to turn up next :shock: .

I have never seen this sequence before. Presumably the extra "G" stands for something, but I am currently stumped as to what that may be.

Do you have any pictures of the whole frame, which would help me date it?

Edit: Okay, I have now seen your thread that shows the frame. At a glance it looks like a 1994 as it has Bullet Dropouts, although the Decals appear to be 1993 or earlier.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:15 pm 
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Heres, one i have ,can take more pics if needed ,it,s a 16inch sold to me as a 93


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:23 pm 
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Yes a 16", but a 1993 would have a Canti Bridge across the Seat Stays, and different Dropouts like this:

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:30 pm 
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Ah ok so maybe a 94 with 93 decals but i wonder whats with the G


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:36 pm 
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pipmeister wrote:
sovereign wrote:
Own a 19" Hei Hei sold in Germany 05/92, the serial is close too 500.

Cheers

Thank you for your help with my thread.

Are you saying that you currently own a Hei Hei that was sold new in Germany in May 1992?

If it was new in 1992, it is likely to be a 1992 model, but could even be earlier.

Are you able to post a picture of the frame / bike to this thread, and can you take a picture of the serial number?

If you struggle with adding pictures to a post on here, or if would prefer not to reveal the serial number to the www, you are welcome to my e-mail address.

Cheers, Pip.


Hi,

yes, sold new in May 1992 in Germany. Frame came with 2 "K" Decals on the downtube only, according to the original owner. I have the receipt including his name, so date of purchase is verified. Serial is B19484.

You can find some pics here: https://fotos.mtb-news.de/s/87400

Feel free to add any picture to this thread!

Cheers,
Oliver


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:39 pm 
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Ah ok so maybe a 94 with 93 decals but i wonder whats with the G

Yes I would say that is correct.

I am still working on what the "G" stands for, or someone may know on this site, so bear with me.

Here is a complete picture of a 1993 frame that shows the Canti Bridge, and the Noodle that sometimes is missing on these frames.

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