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 Post subject: Frame pump advice
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:01 pm 
Dirt Disciple

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Looking for a bit of advice/opinion regarding a frame pump. Just got hold of an 80s Claude Butler tourer that needs a bit of TLC. In the process of stripping it now and planning on brazing on some shifter bosses, bottle bosses and pump peg(s). I want to spray and decal a pump to match the frame.

So, does the pump go under the top tube or on the left hand seat stay?
Also is it better to have a single peg with the type of pump that wedges into the frame or the type of pump that needs a peg at each end?


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 Post subject: Re: Frame pump advice
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:25 am 
Old School Grand Master
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It depends where you want the bottle bosses and spare spokes :)


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 Post subject: Re: Frame pump advice
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:00 pm 
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Don't even bother, most frame pumps won't get you enough air pressure to do anything other than limp home. Get a couple of C02 cartridges and be done with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Frame pump advice
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:14 pm 
r.B.o.T.M. & P.o.T.M. Winner
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1500 SLR wrote:
Don't even bother, most frame pumps won't get you enough air pressure to do anything other than limp home. Get a couple of C02 cartridges and be done with it.


Thats so not retro :lol:

I'd go for under the top tube as Shawn says depends on where you want the bottles and spokes. You can get some really good wedge type pumps that will do more than get you home and get this you can use them again. How retro is that. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Frame pump advice
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:39 pm 
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kingbling wrote:
1500 SLR wrote:
Don't even bother, most frame pumps won't get you enough air pressure to do anything other than limp home. Get a couple of C02 cartridges and be done with it.


Thats so not retro :lol:


Technology moves on, if you've eve tried to pump up a tyre with a frame pump you'd understand why I made my comments.


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 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:47 pm 
Dirt Disciple

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I’m well aware of the merits of CO2 pumps, use them with the other 4 road bikes whenever I get a puncture.
Going for a retro aesthetic (hence spraying and decal-ing pump to match the frame) was just asking about positioning and the differences between wedge and ddouble ended pumps.
Quite like the seatstay mount but would that get in the way of a rack?
Bottle bosses would be going on down tube and seat tube.
If a mini-pump can boast 120psi with their ‘frantic roadside masturbating’ action then a big one should be fine. Also rigid mini pumps love to snap valves.


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 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:24 am 
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Zefal HPX far better than any one use cannister.


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 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:20 am 
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Position wise, wedge ended pumps can go under the top tube with a pump pip or down the seat tube. I think the seat stay option will foul the pannier rack.

So if you want 2 bottle cages, then you're looking at under the top tube. Finding a wedge ended pump that isn't modern looking, isn't rubbish and fits your frame might be tricky. Why not get a normal shaped pump and braze 2 stops under the top tube.

I have no idea if these pumps are any good, but they might have potential for painting and would work with brazed pegs:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Styl ... ctupt=true

If you could sacrifice a bit of the retro look, these are excellent pumps:

https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/pumps/large ... -fit-pump/

They go nicely under the top tube if you have a pump pip on the back of the head tube.


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 Post subject: Re: Frame pump advice
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:31 am 
Old School Grand Master

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No problem at all getting over 100psi with my Park Tool frame pump.


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 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:32 am 
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jm wrote:
Zefal HPX far better than any one use cannister.


Yep good recommendation. And no pegs required.


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