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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:15 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:23 pm 
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RickTheUncivil wrote:
I reckon the Novatec hubs and Spank rims (maybe with 16 spokes, still thinking on that one) should bring the bare wheelset in around 1.5kg, so some lightweight tyres should allow a sub-3kg wheelset, maybe a bit over once a cassette is added.


Did someone say lightweight tyres?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:08 pm 
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Spank Subrosa rim 520g, Alienation Deviant rim ~460g.
Thats a ~60g saving per wheel.

Bargain.

Trouble is, 36 holes means back to the drawing board for hubs.

And the green was starting to grow on me too

Oh well...


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:27 am 
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i've been running 16 spoke f&r on my orange single speed for 2 yrs with no problem, only used for town riding and i'm 5'9 of medium build so should be fine on a kids bike. everyone on here said i would die...but i don't listen. i wouldn't do drop off's with them though, just use common sence.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:15 pm 
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this 32 vs 36 spoke wheel thing is getting me down. I'm really struggling to find decent lightweight hubs on the budget with 36 holes.

To save the ~60g at the rim by switching to the Alienation rims from the Spank, I'm currently looking at losing the ~270g novatec 32H rear hub in favour of a 420g XT756 hub, thats a 150g penalty. Not quite as bad at the front, I have a Hope Pro2 which is 'only' 50g heavier than the novatec unit, but still it seems of limited benefit other than moving the mass from the rim to the hub.

Unless I can get my hands on a lighter rear hub with 36 holes it looks like I'll be sticking with 32H.

Although if I'm planning to reduce the spoke count I could probably get a 24H hub and that would still build up nice and balanced to a 36H rim.... 6 pairs per side instead of 9.... but I would need to do some maths to work out the required spoke lengths. I don't know maths :cry:


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:19 pm 
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Take a look at Superstar for light hubs - especially front (Switch Ultralite) but also rear:
https://www.superstarcomponents.com/en/ ... ar-hub.htm

Decent savings over most others at still real-world prices.

***oops just seen they are 32H only***


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:25 pm 
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hamster wrote:
***oops just seen they are 32H only***


Also over my budget that one, but thanks for trying :D


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:53 pm 
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RickTheUncivil wrote:
...Although if I'm planning to reduce the spoke count I could probably get a 24H hub and that would still build up nice and balanced to a 36H rim....


thinking about it, increasing from 16 spokes (32H rim) to 24 spokes (36H rim) means ~6g (spoke + nipple) x8 = +~50g in spokes. so saving 50g from the rim is all well and good, but I'd gain it again in spokes.

Hmmmm. :?


You see, this is why I have never bothered with weight weening, its making my head hurt


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:39 am 
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so back to 16 spokes!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:34 pm 
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looks like it. Maths just doesn't add up the other way so back to 32 hole / 16 spoke as the plan I reckon.


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