Been after a nice ht for literally over a year and was planning a build for the near future when my path crossed with this.

I even have a spread sheet on my computer of the spec i was intending for the build and this is almost exactly that spec but already done.

So hopefully by the weekend i should be welcoming to the stable a new saracen kili flyer titanium.

Excited, giddy, intolerable dont even come close to describing it.



real pictures when i get my grubby mits around it.

Lovely bike....I do lust over the 853 framed Kili Flyer Cromo.

These are so nice, and an absolute bargain to boot

Ooooo, looks clean.




Yeah i think its due to saracen getting a bad name a few years back (i cant remember how, bso rubbish i think) and trying to recover said rep.

I love Saracens. I think they let themselves down a bit towards the late 90's with bikes like the 'Havoc' and the 'Raw' (the havoc was green and yellow and the Raw black and orange) They had a real supermarket bike feel about them. I for one am glad that the likes of Mannon Carpenter are giving Saracen a good name again! ...and with bikes like these they deserve it!

A card through the door when i got in from work last night and then a quick dash to the depo passport in hand resulted in this:

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Some lovely neat details in the frame, forks seem nice from a quick bounce.

Need to order some pedals but will pinch some from other bike atm, did i mention Titanium.

I want it

That is lovely

Got a spec list??

Whats it weigh??

Nice bikes these

your bike was in my house once

How is your cromo kili coming on mate?

managed to get forks and a seat post sorted

the rest will be sorted soon

Looks awesome, if I had the money right now I'd buy one tomorrow

Does look the part, get it rode and a report up!

Lovely, I was very tempted to get one of these.

Still might...

Spec is totally stock as per the saracen website, full XT, Fox R120 RL's, Fizzik seat.

Had my first ride out and it wasnt the immediate love affair I was hoping for, maby I just need some guidance/reassurance. Bike is a 19" and im 6'4" and strangely it feels really big??

Bike is super light and climbs almost without effort, but my problem with is it is when it starts heading back down. Its hard to describe but it wont seem to corner properly, seems to push the front wheel wide and lacks the flickable feel I was hoping for, its already got a reasonably short stem 90mm so I was expecting it to be sharper.
Tyres are terrible so that wasnt helping with corner confidence either, going to try the set of highroller off my other bike as see if it has a dramatic difference.

Iv been riding a cube Stereo 20" for the last 2 years with the odd blast out on my wifes C'dale trail (Med) when the cube has been off the road, I always enjoy the HT as i think the stereo makes everything too easy sometimes and wanted to get my own HT. The wifes med bike is way too small for me and i have to run seat post just over max extension to get anywhere near leg use so this 19" should be bang on the money size wise. It just feels big, from looking at the pics it looks like the seatpost has a lot of lay back too so that my be contributing.

The other thing is im having to run the stem really high and the brake levers flatter than I would to stop them contacting the tt when turning the bars all the way round(i.e. in a crash) is it just me being too precious over my frame but i really dont want my levers to dent my TT if i come off? Anyone else do this or should i just get over it?

When I get home this weekend the plan will be to get the tape measure on the cube and set seat to bar position the same length, possibly a riser bar to sort my brake lever issue out. Try some tyres that were designed with a consideration given to friction and take it back up them thar hills for another shot.

This may sound like a slating, its not, its just im very picky and like things set up correctly and fully expect this bike to have some classic attributes in there somewhere.