So?

Energy is conserved, assuming you're not on a ketogenic diet, and just exercising in the "fat burning zone" there's a whole deal of other stuff you're not burning up during exercise, that over time, if in excess will get long-term stored as bodyfat.

As to ketogenic diets being best for weight and bodyfat loss, they may be for some people, but not purely / solely because fat is used as the energy source - that's just the smoke and mirrors. Satiety, aiding with those with insulin resistence, leptin control, preservation of lbm, and a sneaky, obfuscated way of getting people to axe a whole deal of calories from a macronutrient that comprises the majority of most peoples' normal intake (in the ambitious hope that over time people don't overcompensate with the remaining macronutrients) may well be where it's at.

Eh?

First you say that ECA is ineffective then go on to talk about using caffeine? ECA has countless studies (y'know, like on pubmed...) that have concluded otherwise.

And I wasn't advocating DNP, nor ignoring the risks - just pointing out that many do use it, daftly, or otherwise.

edit: and I've just noticed the post-edit, bad form there "Bob" I've never tried to even imply that fat oxidation is a myth, I merely reject the oft abused, yet claimed significance of it. As to steriods, I'm not about to extemporise on them, either - I've never used them, and in my experience, most that have rarely seem to do so after having been studious and thorough in their research.

Fizzy drinks / frequently used can knacker your teeth...never a good idea.

Shaun

So stopping for a hamster at the pub is not best then ?

I get that CO2 is the pariah that many love to hate, but all the same, up to now, I was blissfully unaware that it's scope of pure evil extended to tooth decay...

If weight loss is your goal then +1 for High Five Zero. It'll press the last 20 minutes out of you that would have otherwise had you gasping for sugar.

Of course only any good for training passes up to approx 2 hours.

Any more you'll have to be prepared to suffer. Really suffer. If you can't take the pain then you need to use something for the first hour(s) until you only have 90 mins or so left.

Zero also makes it easier to get the right amount of liquid down your neck.

They add citrate and phosphoric acid which dissolves your teeth ..

Shaun