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Coolwall October 2011 - Entry Level Groupsets
Cool 18%  18%  [ 31 ]
Uncool 82%  82%  [ 138 ]
Total votes : 169
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:46 am 
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cool by 18% of votes. JESUS!


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:20 pm 
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jax13 wrote:
...a shonky, heavy-ish late 80's entry level 'thing' restored & built up to its original (slightly below par on the grand scheme of things) factory spec that is paraded around like its something special is uncool, regardless of how pretty the pictures of it are. the same bike, lovingly restored to recreate someones first 'proper' mtb & it being given a good old thrashing at any opportunity making the owner feel like he is 15 again makes it cool, even more so if they got opportunity to embarrass someone on a high spec'd modern (or retro) bike with their 'uncool' chunk of pig-iron!


Right, so we're judging the groupset out of context. Is that it?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:02 pm 
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Shimano 200Gs adorned my first mountain bike (a 1990 Marin Muirwoods that was so yellow you could see it from outer space). The plastic shifters were the cause of much hilarity for the decidedly better (Deore) equipped Tangent, sometime of this parish.

But... that bike and its steel n' plastic groupset launched me into a whole new world of fun - and for that reason, I vote cool. 8)


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:31 pm 
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I absolutely understand the affection for low-end kit, we all started somewhere after all, and it was no different for me. But we moved on, mostly upwards.

I could get all sentimental about the floppy Nike trainers I used for the first couple of years before I could afford a proper pair of cycling shoes. Or the awful piss-pot lid I wore before I bought a Bell helmet (and then plastered with stickers). Or the crochet mitts that gave me calluses Eddie Van Halen would have been proud of.

But they aren't cool, just things that I used when I started mountain biking. I look back fondly on the kit I used to use, with varying degrees of suitability - but none of it was or is cool. It was (often old and tired) horses for courses.

All in my most humble of respectful opinions, of course.

But please, I refer you all to this:

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:34 pm 
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Coming, as I did, from tricycle>stabilisers>s/s freewheel>3-speed Sturmey Archer>Sachs Huret over the course of nearly 30 years then, yes, these did look pretty damn cool at the time...

...if you look at most of the bikes on here you'd think nobody ever rode anything that didn't have XT/XTR plastered all over it :roll:

I thought I'd reached personal nirvana on my DX equipped cro-mega (and before anyone questions the validity of my sketchy rose-tinted recall I bought the frame first and the DX was the best looking kit I could see in the 'removed from customers bike' cabinet; both from my friendly LBS in Sprowston...), but later even my Clockwork had Exage 500 on it; and that bike was a real 'must have' at the time.

Nowadays I think they're kind of 'anti-cool', like one of Clint Eastwoods dodgy heros... :wink:


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:44 pm 
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The hardware itself is totally uncool. Personally- I started with 300LX!

However, the knowledge that comes from knowing you used to be able to drag yourself up a gnarly Peaks climb that you know you would be struggling to get up today on a bike costing 5 times as much - makes the concept of "cool" pretty irrelevant TBH.


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Uncool

Only acted as an impetus to get the better gear...

As previously stated cool isn't a measure if something is good or not...


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:06 pm 
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I so wanted to vote cool.
Ultimately, functionality for a price but uncool.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:42 pm 
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After much deliberation, I'm going to have go uncool. If we topped out at Alivio I might go cool (the Alivio cranks I have in my box are just a pretty as the XT of the day) but given the general 'black-not-quite-plastic' nature of this sort of level, and the nearly-but-doesn't-entirely-work nature of it all, I'm going to have to give in to my 'uncool' urges.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:05 am 
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Drencrom wrote:
jax13 wrote:
...a shonky, heavy-ish late 80's entry level 'thing' restored & built up to its original (slightly below par on the grand scheme of things) factory spec that is paraded around like its something special is uncool, regardless of how pretty the pictures of it are. the same bike, lovingly restored to recreate someones first 'proper' mtb & it being given a good old thrashing at any opportunity making the owner feel like he is 15 again makes it cool, even more so if they got opportunity to embarrass someone on a high spec'd modern (or retro) bike with their 'uncool' chunk of pig-iron!


Right, so we're judging the groupset out of context. Is that it?


not so much out of context but in black and white rather than seeing the whole plastic coated greyness of it!

my point is simply that in the right situation, on the right bike and with the right reasoning, they can be considered cool by those who appreciate the picture as a whole rather than looking past its function to what it 'means' rather than what it 'does'


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