BoTM Nov 2009 - Mid Range Special - Poll now up

GoldenEraMTB · Nov 21, 2009

Re: stumpjumper

Jamiedyer":3vfxi62g said:
Drs S's Stumpjumper for sure
ten thumbs up
(if your a hillbilly)

Jamie

It's a good choice, I've owned a couple of them...I just can't stand that little flame sticker, so i couldn't consider it :evil:

makster · Nov 21, 2009

mechagouki":2dc5ip9p said:
Seems to me people are desperate to vote for something that's not mid-range. I love an old stumpy as much as the next person, but if it's mid-range where do Rockhopper and Hardrock fall? And the Cannondale, does Mavic mtb componentry fall below Shimano LX now.

My sentiments exactly. I was really pleased with this botm criteria as I'd hoped to see more of the bikes that were on my radar as a nipper.
Bit dissapointed as I think the spirit of this has been lost and we're back closer to a usual botm.
That said, there are some great bikes this month, and two Jamis which must be a first

GoldenEraMTB · Nov 21, 2009

makster":3q5xz4zo said:
mechagouki":3q5xz4zo said:

Seems to me people are desperate to vote for something that's not mid-range. I love an old stumpy as much as the next person, but if it's mid-range where do Rockhopper and Hardrock fall? And the Cannondale, does Mavic mtb componentry fall below Shimano LX now.

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My sentiments exactly. I was really pleased with this botm criteria as I'd hoped to see more of the bikes that were on my radar as a nipper.
Bit dissapointed as I think the spirit of this has been lost and we're back closer to a usual botm.
That said, there are some great bikes this month, and two Jamis which must be a first

It's not a stumpjumper; it's a stumpjumper sport. Besides, the stumpjumper was definitely midranged when you look at the bike it was based on, the Ritchey. The Stumpjumper was quite attainable.

The cannondale was not top of the line, not even in their own product line. I gathered this was for mid-level, not entry level.

None of the bikes entered this month would stand much of a chance winning in a regular month, so imho, the spirit of the special midlevel contest has been kept.

legrandefromage · Nov 22, 2009

GoldenEraMTB":1h0er5th said:
makster":1h0er5th said:

mechagouki":1h0er5th said:

Seems to me people are desperate to vote for something that's not mid-range. I love an old stumpy as much as the next person, but if it's mid-range where do Rockhopper and Hardrock fall? And the Cannondale, does Mavic mtb componentry fall below Shimano LX now.

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My sentiments exactly. I was really pleased with this botm criteria as I'd hoped to see more of the bikes that were on my radar as a nipper.
Bit dissapointed as I think the spirit of this has been lost and we're back closer to a usual botm.
That said, there are some great bikes this month, and two Jamis which must be a first

Click to expand...

It's not a stumpjumper; it's a stumpjumper sport. Besides, the stumpjumper was definitely midranged when you look at the bike it was based on, the Ritchey. The Stumpjumper was quite attainable.

The cannondale was not top of the line, not even in their own product line. I gathered this was for mid-level, not entry level.

None of the bikes entered this month would stand much of a chance winning in a regular month, so imho, the spirit of the special midlevel contest has been kept.

except 'herbert'

kaiser · Nov 22, 2009

After much consideration Mattbrowns Kirk gets it

nicely finished cracking colour and looks well balanced. Proper interesting looking bike and the one I'd most like a go of. I reckon some better pics would do this bike justice. This fits the mid range bill for me to a T.

Neil · Nov 22, 2009

GoldenEraMTB":12a2snk5 said:
makster":12a2snk5 said:

mechagouki":12a2snk5 said:

Seems to me people are desperate to vote for something that's not mid-range. I love an old stumpy as much as the next person, but if it's mid-range where do Rockhopper and Hardrock fall? And the Cannondale, does Mavic mtb componentry fall below Shimano LX now.

Click to expand...

My sentiments exactly. I was really pleased with this botm criteria as I'd hoped to see more of the bikes that were on my radar as a nipper.
Bit dissapointed as I think the spirit of this has been lost and we're back closer to a usual botm.
That said, there are some great bikes this month, and two Jamis which must be a first

Click to expand...

It's not a stumpjumper; it's a stumpjumper sport. Besides, the stumpjumper was definitely midranged when you look at the bike it was based on, the Ritchey.

I disagree. BITD before suspension bikes hit the line-ups, a Stumpjumper was top of Specialized's range.

Now elitists may not hold that in much regard, but that doesn't make them mid-range.

GoldenEraMTB":12a2snk5 said:
The Stumpjumper was quite attainable.

Depending on resources, anything is quite attainable.

That doesn't necessarily make something mid-range, though.

kaiser · Nov 22, 2009

Neil":2syvfqdg said:
GoldenEraMTB":2syvfqdg said:

makster":2syvfqdg said:

mechagouki":2syvfqdg said:

Seems to me people are desperate to vote for something that's not mid-range. I love an old stumpy as much as the next person, but if it's mid-range where do Rockhopper and Hardrock fall? And the Cannondale, does Mavic mtb componentry fall below Shimano LX now.

Click to expand...

My sentiments exactly. I was really pleased with this botm criteria as I'd hoped to see more of the bikes that were on my radar as a nipper.
Bit dissapointed as I think the spirit of this has been lost and we're back closer to a usual botm.
That said, there are some great bikes this month, and two Jamis which must be a first

Click to expand...

It's not a stumpjumper; it's a stumpjumper sport. Besides, the stumpjumper was definitely midranged when you look at the bike it was based on, the Ritchey.

Click to expand...

I disagree. BITD before suspension bikes hit the line-ups, a Stumpjumper was top of Specialized's range.

Now elitists may not hold that in much regard, but that doesn't make them mid-range.

GoldenEraMTB":2syvfqdg said:

The Stumpjumper was quite attainable.

Click to expand...

Depending on resources, anything is quite attainable.

That doesn't necessarily make something mid-range, though.

When that Stumpy was released was there any other bikes in the range? The Stumpy was the first mass produced mtb was it not? Did Gary Fisher have a line out by then i.e not the handmade stuff. WOuld have been breezers and ritcheys etc

oldave · Nov 22, 2009

"saddle and frame bags, pumps, dirty and/or mismatched tyres, crappy environments (backyards, basements, streets, etc) and cellphone photos."

Guilty to some at least of those - to my way of thinking IT'S A BIKE and while I won't vote for my own nor would I for any that for all I know never go out!

oldave · Nov 22, 2009

And having looked at 'em all again...the Fuji is nice, but I can't believe it came with a single ring - and the tyres are clean! They are clearly all magic bikes - no need to carry tubes and tools!

But most of 'em could be static models....

I have no doubt missed the point of the exercise, but then I often do.

GoldenEraMTB · Nov 22, 2009

Neil":jt7h4uvl said:
GoldenEraMTB":jt7h4uvl said:

makster":jt7h4uvl said:

mechagouki":jt7h4uvl said:

Seems to me people are desperate to vote for something that's not mid-range. I love an old stumpy as much as the next person, but if it's mid-range where do Rockhopper and Hardrock fall? And the Cannondale, does Mavic mtb componentry fall below Shimano LX now.

Click to expand...

My sentiments exactly. I was really pleased with this botm criteria as I'd hoped to see more of the bikes that were on my radar as a nipper.
Bit dissapointed as I think the spirit of this has been lost and we're back closer to a usual botm.
That said, there are some great bikes this month, and two Jamis which must be a first

Click to expand...

It's not a stumpjumper; it's a stumpjumper sport. Besides, the stumpjumper was definitely midranged when you look at the bike it was based on, the Ritchey.

Click to expand...

I disagree. BITD before suspension bikes hit the line-ups, a Stumpjumper was top of Specialized's range.

Now elitists may not hold that in much regard, but that doesn't make them mid-range.

GoldenEraMTB":jt7h4uvl said:

The Stumpjumper was quite attainable.

Click to expand...

Depending on resources, anything is quite attainable.

That doesn't necessarily make something mid-range, though.

I'm far from an elitist.

This is not an 81 stumpjumper; it's a stumpjumper sport from 83 or 84, by that time, there were many a company making mountain bikes. The Stumpjumper was mid-level by that year if not earlier.

read a book, or a web page or two, dude

(I'm kidding with that last remark, thus the wink...don't know, not as fun when you have to spell it out, but sometimes tone is mistaken over the intranet

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BoTM Nov 2009 - Mid Range Special - Poll now up

BoTM Nov 2009 - Mid Range Special - Poll now up

EdEdwards' Kona Fire Mountain

Oneschnark's Progear STX 1995

Andrewl's 1994 Kona Cindercone

Gonzalez's Muddy Fox Sorcerer Mega

Herbert

makster's 1988 Jamis Dakota

mattbrown's 1993 Kirk Magnesium

Easy_Rider's 1994 Dawes SE

doctor-bond's 1985 Fuji Ltd

Dr S' 1983 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport

Ransetsu Orange C16R

Khane's Orange Prestige

Defiant's Muddy Fox Adventurer

hamster's 1999 Kona Cindercone

RockiMtn's 1994 Kona Fire Mountain

ElCani's Muddy Fox Seeker

AndyB's 1997 Scott Peak

Lewis1641's GT RTS-2

Eastcoatsteve's Klein

Chrisv40's Univega Alpina 5.5

one-eyed_jim's 1970 Moulton Mk3

Drystonepaul's 1994 Marin Muirwoods

rc200ti's 1991 Kona Cindercone

crazier's 1992 Saracen X-Lite kili pro Flyer

AnalogKid's 1991 Raleigh Peak

24pouces 1988 cannondale SM600

Brettels' Specialized Stumpjumper A1 FS 1996

oldave's Jamis Exile

Senri's 1988 Giant Escaper

BrunoD's Specialized Hardrock 95

stauqmuk's 1998 Amp B4

Tollers' 1992 Orange Clockwork

jango's 1995 Diamond Back Vertex

Ringo's Orange P7

mike_eb's KHS Montana

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