BoTM Novemember 09 Nominations - Mid Range Special

John":3cv7eja5 said:

Going to get this up in the next day or so. Be warned.

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Neil":1f6dng4l said:

GoldenEraMTB":1f6dng4l said:

bikepedia is not the most accurate site, but it was an easy find:

http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/Bike ... &Type=bike

all LX for around $1200...definitely mid-range, especially when compared to upper Kleins.

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Maybe mid-range for a Klein, but most definitely not a mid-range bike compared to the entire range of MTBs.

Boutique bikes are not mid range. Klein bikes are not mid-range - there's no sense arguing with that, I've ruled and it stands, no take backs...

Over the years, I've read countless group tests of mid-range bikes - and a Klein never featured in any that I can recall.

Entry level MTBs were considered to start around the £300 mark. Anything approaching £1000 was high-end (whether or not you could spend thousands on MTBs, the masses didn't).

So mid range was clearly about the £500 mark - perhaps going up to £700 tops.

As I've said before, bike mags never struggled to categorise bikes as mid-range when testing bikes together, so neither should we - and it wasn't higher-end exotica, dressed-down - it was mid-range in most of the production bike line-ups. Which was typically around 500-600 pounds.

Trying to place boutique bikes at the bottom of their particular range, as general mid-range bikes, is most certainly detracting from the spirit of what a mid-range BOTM should be about, IMNSHO.

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stauqmuk":2m6wzez8 said:

Oh and I almost forgot here's my entry... an all original 1998 Amp B4. Full LX group aside from the brake calipers and front hub (Amp D1 discs).

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RockiMtn":1envxq2v said:

Neil":1envxq2v said:

GoldenEraMTB":1envxq2v said:

bikepedia is not the most accurate site, but it was an easy find:

http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/Bike ... &Type=bike

all LX for around $1200...definitely mid-range, especially when compared to upper Kleins.

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Maybe mid-range for a Klein, but most definitely not a mid-range bike compared to the entire range of MTBs.

Boutique bikes are not mid range. Klein bikes are not mid-range - there's no sense arguing with that, I've ruled and it stands, no take backs...

Over the years, I've read countless group tests of mid-range bikes - and a Klein never featured in any that I can recall.

Entry level MTBs were considered to start around the £300 mark. Anything approaching £1000 was high-end (whether or not you could spend thousands on MTBs, the masses didn't).

So mid range was clearly about the £500 mark - perhaps going up to £700 tops.

As I've said before, bike mags never struggled to categorise bikes as mid-range when testing bikes together, so neither should we - and it wasn't higher-end exotica, dressed-down - it was mid-range in most of the production bike line-ups. Which was typically around 500-600 pounds.

Trying to place boutique bikes at the bottom of their particular range, as general mid-range bikes, is most certainly detracting from the spirit of what a mid-range BOTM should be about, IMNSHO.

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so you'd say a low-end Ferrari isn't a mid level car???

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makster":1skfx2tp said:

John":1skfx2tp said:

Going to get this up in the next day or so. Be warned.

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Are you planning a cull of the entries that dont meet the LX and below/mid-range criteria or are you going to just let us fight it out between us?

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Pickle":giczcgrl said:

makster":giczcgrl said:

John":giczcgrl said:

Going to get this up in the next day or so. Be warned.

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Are you planning a cull of the entries that dont meet the LX and below/mid-range criteria or are you going to just let us fight it out between us?

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Any DX+ will not be entered.

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