Alejandro's (Klein) Adroit 1992 Green Gator Target sub < 7Kg

How can you tell that is an original splash hub?

Seller is experienced , he also has many other too much valueble pieces.

I just purchased to him also the NOS Tioga DDR (see attcahed pic) and I paid so well, my lady

Now Im'm sad, Magne (the one who sells the beauties Attitude's here and there on ebay) is not responding me to my Whatsapp, he didnt get my calls


PD: I'm Alejandro Martin

Today received, original NOS Tinker Juarez 1992 shifters.

The Campagnolo ones (I like better Italia than Japan sorry, jiji, I'm from EU)

By looking at 1992 catalogue, see attached pic, the shifters of the Campagnolo Record OR brand (OR = O.R. = Off Road) where branded as "Icarus"

Here you can see in its full glory, weight only 142 gr !! lighter than what I previously expected (157 gr).

I updated my total estimated weight of Alejandro's Adroit Gator 1992 in first page topic

PD: I expect for today receive the Adroit Gator 1992 Size 19" lovely frameset.
I will post

Que bueno amigo!
esta bicicleta será la Puta madre!

The Campagnolo ones (I like better Italia than Japan sorry, jiji, I'm from EU) -- So why the Shimano parts?

I'm sure weight could be saved here:
0.027 gr --- Crank fixing bolts: Shimano** -- Use SRP alloy or titanium
0.207 gr --- Cassette: Shimano XTR CS M950 (11-30)** -- Use titanium cassette: Tioga/Action Tec/Boone or aluminium: Real
0.317 gr --- Chain: Shimano IG70 (106)** -- Use full titanium chain.

It will be uber light but modern parts will ruin the looks (in my opinion).

So glad you bought the DDP, it was killing me seeing it every day.

My thoughts too - unlimited budget and a goal in mind - this is what makes it all the more interesting and enjoyable

I’m not keen on the look to be honest - as it’s subjective - but no doubt this will be a killer machine

Seems lighter than Italians, altought not sure at all



Probably same weight. If you can provide a link or better a purchase link or ebay or other web betterso this way I will buy and compare



Acording to *1)Weights even more or around the same:
*1)Tioga Titanium Cassete 228 gr https://weightweenies.starbike.com/foru ... hp?t=24168
2*) Action Tec is 240 gr https://weightweenies.starbike.com/list ... =cassettes


I must check, can you help me with weight numbers, for a valid and proper MTB chain





A upcoming used DD (no NOS, used) I'm fighting for me to be able to get as well


PD: I love the tinker shifters, but I must confess that they are super hard to use / move the dials

The shifters you have are Campagnolo but a completely different model to what Tinker has in the photo. His are not low profile and have a lot more components to them.
These are what Tinker is using, I had some on my bike too in the '90's: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Campagnolo-E ... SwNgZfWim-

207g Ti chain here: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YBN-11sp-6-4 ... SwRylffZN7

Great project and great thread.