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(On Compact and just getting on with it) will be the most likely route I suspect, have most everything in the parts bin 'cept wheelset. Not ruining everything by putting Aksiums (my only spares) on...
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Most likely getting wayyyyyyyy ahead of myself here, but having ordered a pair of Campag gloves (which are lovely) from Wilson, decided to see if a decal set might be on the cards if I wanted to go down the complete repaint route... and this is what the fantastic Nigel sent when I pressed the button.
Suffice to say, looks like a proper full revamp will be the order of the day, metallic grey / blue to go with the white decals.
Full disclosure: the f&f is still in Sheffield with eldest son, so not had a chance to check out things properly (hard to judge things via Skype) but thinking of looking out a 531 chromed fork or perhaps a 1" crabon (as have an adapter thingy) as part of the build. Plans, plans etc...
Suffice to say, looks like a proper full revamp will be the order of the day, metallic grey / blue to go with the white decals.
Full disclosure: the f&f is still in Sheffield with eldest son, so not had a chance to check out things properly (hard to judge things via Skype) but thinking of looking out a 531 chromed fork or perhaps a 1" crabon (as have an adapter thingy) as part of the build. Plans, plans etc...
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Well, all back and here's the news - spread across a couple posts as there's a few pictures.
First off, the f&f 'as was'.
Lots of decals, a 'stuck seatpost' and the shonky headset.
Everything looks true, bit more corrosion at first glance than I'd hoped.
Seatpost looks like c.27mm, rear OLN is 130 (so must have been cold set during a refurb), front is 100mm.
Rear dropouts are forged but no other markings.
So far, so good...
First off, the f&f 'as was'.
Lots of decals, a 'stuck seatpost' and the shonky headset.
Everything looks true, bit more corrosion at first glance than I'd hoped.
Seatpost looks like c.27mm, rear OLN is 130 (so must have been cold set during a refurb), front is 100mm.
Rear dropouts are forged but no other markings.
So far, so good...
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Hmm, pics appearing back to front. Oh well.
BB is 68mm, threads look ok.
So, seat post wasn't stuck - yay! Came right out. It's an SR and marked 26.8 but it's a tiny bit sloppy. Inside of the seatpost seems slightly distorted. Hmm.
Headset came off, also the chrome bits (crowns?) after some pfaffing. Fork is way heavy and is stamped 'TANGE (a number I can't make out)'. Crown race will need replacing. Bit corroded. Forks seem square.
Frame is well weighty! It's a size 58 but I think this must be 501? It's really heavily painted, but that can't be more than a couple of hundred grams tops?
BB is 68mm, threads look ok.
So, seat post wasn't stuck - yay! Came right out. It's an SR and marked 26.8 but it's a tiny bit sloppy. Inside of the seatpost seems slightly distorted. Hmm.
Headset came off, also the chrome bits (crowns?) after some pfaffing. Fork is way heavy and is stamped 'TANGE (a number I can't make out)'. Crown race will need replacing. Bit corroded. Forks seem square.
Frame is well weighty! It's a size 58 but I think this must be 501? It's really heavily painted, but that can't be more than a couple of hundred grams tops?
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And, next...
Striped all the stickies off, bar the vinyl lettering, which is nice.
The colour's a really nice sparkly blue and the flat orange is pretty neat. The overall refurb's not so great, masking between the colours on the seat tube is rubbish and was disguised by stickers.
The paint's coming away / bubbling in places. Have structural worries creeping in now.
Plenty of clearance (Open Pro's here have 28's on them for looking at the geometry) for wheel-set decisions.
Striped all the stickies off, bar the vinyl lettering, which is nice.
The colour's a really nice sparkly blue and the flat orange is pretty neat. The overall refurb's not so great, masking between the colours on the seat tube is rubbish and was disguised by stickers.
The paint's coming away / bubbling in places. Have structural worries creeping in now.
Plenty of clearance (Open Pro's here have 28's on them for looking at the geometry) for wheel-set decisions.
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fiveSixteenths
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One last thing for this evening...
On the BB is a braze-on cable guide, which the rear mech cable runs under to the stop on the chain stay. Simple enough, I think.
But but but...
For the front mech (which will be a clamp-on), there's a stop on the main down tube. And then, nothing else. How the hell does that work? How does the cable run from the stop to the mech? Seems like there's some kind of guide-y thing missing?
Hopefully you can see from the pic (looking down the seat tube to the top of the BB) the cable guide and the stop on the down tube. Am scratching my head
On the BB is a braze-on cable guide, which the rear mech cable runs under to the stop on the chain stay. Simple enough, I think.
But but but...
For the front mech (which will be a clamp-on), there's a stop on the main down tube. And then, nothing else. How the hell does that work? How does the cable run from the stop to the mech? Seems like there's some kind of guide-y thing missing?
Hopefully you can see from the pic (looking down the seat tube to the top of the BB) the cable guide and the stop on the down tube. Am scratching my head
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You need a front mech with integrated cable stop, on my phone so can’t post a picture, but there are a few options.
You need a front mech with integrated cable stop, on my phone so can’t post a picture, but there are a few options.
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