Retrobike Forum Index

It is currently Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:02 pm

* Login   * Register * Search  * FAQ



Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 61 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next

How long before she goes?
Poll ended at Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:55 pm
Three days? 13%  13%  [ 2 ]
Three weeks? 20%  20%  [ 3 ]
Three months? 40%  40%  [ 6 ]
Three years? 13%  13%  [ 2 ]
Full term? 13%  13%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 15
Author Message
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:01 am 
Old School Grand Master
Old School Grand Master
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:35 am
Posts: 12786
Location: Penarth
Indeed, it appears one of our real un-democratically elected leaders has decided May has 10 days. I guess Rupert has found his chosen successor now.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:24 am 
Retro Guru
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:58 am
Posts: 916
ajm wrote:
Which almost sounds plausible until you look at housing in properly Communist states. Soviet tower blocks are of course as close to paradise on earth as you can find...


Oh for christ's sake. The USSR inherited a mostly rural population living in wood huts, a massive homeless population, and a minuscule industrial base during the arse end of world war one. It then had it's entire progress towards modern housing west of Moscow destroyed by world war two - killing 25 million and making another 25 million homeless. They then spent the next 5 years throwing up apartments to get them out of tents and the next 40 after that with an extremely fast population growth. Their strategy being to deal with this using small pre-fab apartments that used resources efficiently and went up fast. This was very successful as even at the "stagnant" speed of construction during the early 80s, it's known they would have reached a housing surplus in the early 2000s.

Now, ignoring that the soviet housing model has been adopted by the English private sector and rented out for £450 per month in Warrington, there's just one question to be asked:

Why are you trying to deflect from the factual statement that those responsible for Grenfell Tower prioritised making it pretty over making it safe, to the degree that they literally sent threats to those who warned of the fire danger?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:11 am 
Retro Guru

Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:33 pm
Posts: 784
Location: Highlands
Bats wrote:
Why are you trying to deflect from the factual statement that those responsible for Grenfell Tower prioritised making it pretty over making it safe, to the degree that they literally sent threats to those who warned of the fire danger?


Are you saying that the PM (or even anyone else in government) sent threats to those warning of fire danger?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:06 am 
Retro Guru

Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:08 pm
Posts: 1677
Location: I know where the stash is – the secret's safe with me. The flying squad will never find us...
Quote:
Are you saying that the PM (or even anyone else in government) sent threats to those warning of fire danger?


Those residents who raised genuine concerns about the building and fears over fire safety, were threatened on previous occasions historically. It is more likely to be Kensington Council and the management company they set up if anything.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:58 pm 
Retro Guru
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:58 am
Posts: 916
ajm wrote:
Bats wrote:
Why are you trying to deflect from the factual statement that those responsible for Grenfell Tower prioritised making it pretty over making it safe, to the degree that they literally sent threats to those who warned of the fire danger?


Are you saying that the PM (or even anyone else in government) sent threats to those warning of fire danger?


Christ alive it's like pulling teeth. The council sent the threats to try and shut them up. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 92346.html


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:30 pm 
Retro Guru

Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:33 pm
Posts: 784
Location: Highlands
So the PM is now directly responsible for the actions of every individual local authority is she? Of course she isn't. As I have said from the start there is likely to be plenty of blame to be apportioned and I sincerely hope that prosecutions are brought if, as it appears likely, criminal negligence can be shown on the part of any individual.

Demanding the PM resign over something that was nothing to do with her though is patently ridiculous and would not just fail to achieve anything positive, but would throw the country into even more disarray than it is already in.

By the way your constant profanity is both ugly and offensive, keep it to yourself please.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:33 pm 
Retro Guru

Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:33 pm
Posts: 784
Location: Highlands
groovyblueshed wrote:
Those residents who raised genuine concerns about the building and fears over fire safety, were threatened on previous occasions historically. It is more likely to be Kensington Council and the management company they set up if anything.


I agree - the main contractor will also be in the frame if the media reports of their opting for a cheaper panel than specified/quoted and pocketing the (meagre) difference are true.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:17 pm 
Retro Guru
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:58 am
Posts: 916
ajm wrote:
So the PM is now directly responsible for the actions of every individual local authority is she? Of course she isn't. As I have said from the start there is likely to be plenty of blame to be apportioned and I sincerely hope that prosecutions are brought if, as it appears likely, criminal negligence can be shown on the part of any individual.

Demanding the PM resign over something that was nothing to do with her though is patently ridiculous and would not just fail to achieve anything positive, but would throw the country into even more disarray than it is already in.


I agree, so Why are you asking me if I think she's responsible for what the council does? I never brought it up, never even thought of it. in fact I specifically said it was the council who did it.

I'm at a loss as to how you jump from me pointing out the councils actions all the way to Theresa May.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:24 pm 
Retro Guru

Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:33 pm
Posts: 784
Location: Highlands
I suspect you didn't read my previous posts carefully enough. In the first place, (and given this is/was a thread about TM in particular) I stated that the protesters baying for TM's blood in Downing St, as being somehow responsible for the Grenfell tragedy, were ridiculous.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:42 pm 
Retro Guru
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:58 am
Posts: 916
ajm wrote:
I suspect you didn't read my previous posts carefully enough. In the first place, (and given this is/was a thread about TM in particular) I stated that the protesters baying for TM's blood in Downing St, as being somehow responsible for the Grenfell tragedy, were ridiculous.


No, you directly asked me if I was saying she was responsible. You doing that is still here on the page, but I'll show you a picture too.

Image
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 61 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: stew-b and 26 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

About Us

Follow Retrobike

Other cool stuff

All content © 2005-2015 Retrobike unless otherwise stated.
Cookies Policy.
bikedeals - the best bike deals in one place
FatCOGS - Fat Chance Owner's Group

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group