Accles & Pollock Kromo S.A.Q. 1948

Any ideas which A&C transfers http://www.hlloydcycles.com/ are likely to be correct for 1948 Stallard Montlhery? Did Stallard ever fit A&C transfers?

deliquium":2ym2lqd1 said:

Any ideas which A&C transfers http://www.hlloydcycles.com/ are likely to be correct for 1948 Stallard Montlhery? Did Stallard ever fit A&C transfers?

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What leads you to think Stallard used A & P as opposed to the more common (in this early post war period) Reynolds tubes ? A & P was a high quality tubeset, easily as good as 531 (some say superior); and was, by Hobbs of Barbican for example, offered to customers along with Reynolds.

I have several bicycles with A & P tubesets (including HoB).

Hope this helps, but remember many builders did not apply tubing transfers (early Hetchins for example unless the customer specifically asked), as they only made frames from the best quality tubesets.

Jon.

roadking":23och8oz said:

deliquium":23och8oz said:

Any ideas which A&C transfers http://www.hlloydcycles.com/ are likely to be correct for 1948 Stallard Montlhery? Did Stallard ever fit A&C transfers?

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What leads you to think Stallard used A & P as opposed to the more common (in this early post war period) Reynolds tubes
Jon.

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Thanks Jon http://classiclightweights.co.uk/Stallard1948.html shows a frame with a possible tubing transfer under the seatube/headtube cluster. Assumptions of course :roll: Other searches for Percy Stallard mention A&P also.

This is the frame I have - confirmed as a 1948 Montlhery from the frame number

Weight of frame, seatbolt, forks and headset 6lb 4oz

Nice frameset.

I would probably go for DP3 in the catalogue, but I don't think the decal on the Stallard on Classic Lightweights is a tubing one.

A & P decals have similiar colourways to the Reynolds ones - i.e black and green.

Cheers, Jon.

Not sure how definitive this is , but I have a lugless Claud Butler frame from the same period and there is a clear stamping on the fork steerer, an oval with 'A&P' and then a series of codes , might be worth a look.

chipper":mm6yspkj said:

Not sure how definitive this is , but I have a lugless Claud Butler frame from the same period and there is a clear stamping on the fork steerer, an oval with 'A&P' and then a series of codes , might be worth a look.

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Hi Chipper,

not quite sure what your point is as you have a CB and the OPs asking about Accles & Pollock tubing related to his Stallard.

However, fyi many Reynolds frames (of that early postwar period) had Accles & Pollock steerers. Your steerer Chipper probably has something like this on it - A&P BST G/13/16 AQ.

Jon.