Bats
Senior Retro Guru
"Are there no workhouses? Workhouses! Built them workhouses! But not with my tax money!" - Technodup, 1887
And what does this have to do with what originally started this conversation snippet, videojetman's claim that "people can choose to claim benefits or choose to look for work."?
You know, what with it no longer being true, because to get benefits you have to either prove you're looking for, or actually be in work.
Never said anyone did owe me a living, strange you think I am.
What I am saying, is that you blaming someone for failure when they're doing the best they can is bloody horrendous.
I'm not just moaning about how hard it is, I'm pointing out that it is hard. You and your ilk are convinced it's easy living, a choice. When it's pointed out it isn't, you just fall back on "you're not trying hard enough, or you're not good enough". As if that solves anything.
Ending the workfare program, ending all austerity measures and closing tax loopholes, now there's real solutions.
Imagine that! Ending workfare would mean tesco would actually have to hire workers, instead of getting free ones from the job centre.
Imagine, if you will, a world where companies actually pay their taxes. You know how they say we "can't afford" X Y and Z, so we have to cut them? We could afford if someone held starbucks accountable.
So there's two birds with one stone. Both a way of increasing available jobs, and making "dole scroungers" even less of an issue.
Hell, I imagine bumping dole money up would be a big boost to the economy. Think of all the extra money they'd spend on cigs and big tellies! They'd be opening up extra bargain boozes and Currys across the land.
I already have said I'm on the dole, good to see your reading is as good as your economic policy.
John Maynard Keynes has the answers. It's funny to see that the economy has done exactly what his economic theories predict under austerity, thus validating him even more than the post war boom years did.
technodup":bhg8ntxi said:
And what does this have to do with what originally started this conversation snippet, videojetman's claim that "people can choose to claim benefits or choose to look for work."?
You know, what with it no longer being true, because to get benefits you have to either prove you're looking for, or actually be in work.
technodup":bhg8ntxi said:
Never said anyone did owe me a living, strange you think I am.
What I am saying, is that you blaming someone for failure when they're doing the best they can is bloody horrendous.
technodup":bhg8ntxi said:
I'm not just moaning about how hard it is, I'm pointing out that it is hard. You and your ilk are convinced it's easy living, a choice. When it's pointed out it isn't, you just fall back on "you're not trying hard enough, or you're not good enough". As if that solves anything.
Ending the workfare program, ending all austerity measures and closing tax loopholes, now there's real solutions.
Imagine that! Ending workfare would mean tesco would actually have to hire workers, instead of getting free ones from the job centre.
Imagine, if you will, a world where companies actually pay their taxes. You know how they say we "can't afford" X Y and Z, so we have to cut them? We could afford if someone held starbucks accountable.
So there's two birds with one stone. Both a way of increasing available jobs, and making "dole scroungers" even less of an issue.
Hell, I imagine bumping dole money up would be a big boost to the economy. Think of all the extra money they'd spend on cigs and big tellies! They'd be opening up extra bargain boozes and Currys across the land.
technodup":bhg8ntxi said:
I already have said I'm on the dole, good to see your reading is as good as your economic policy.
technodup":bhg8ntxi said:
John Maynard Keynes has the answers. It's funny to see that the economy has done exactly what his economic theories predict under austerity, thus validating him even more than the post war boom years did.
