Not sure that is entirely true. I certainly notice traffic is slower in the 20 zones locally here and in London.daugs":1qijocyj said:20mph limit doesn't work
highlandsflyer":fznprxw7 said:Not sure that is entirely true. I certainly notice traffic is slower in the 20 zones locally here and in London.daugs":fznprxw7 said:20mph limit doesn't work
"RoSPA's Policy Position on 20mph Speed Limits
20mph zones are very effective at preventing injuries and RoSPA would like to see their wider use in residential areas.
20mph zones significantly decrease the risk of being injured in a collision and their greater use, especially in residential areas, would help to reduce the number of traffic injuries in the UK."
(http://www.rospa.com/roadsafety/advicea ... zones.aspx)
daugs":pgmzt2bj said:as an aside, has anyone mentioned if cyclists should obey the 20mph speed limit as well ??
highlandsflyer":5khfyrw8 said:Suggesting speed limits have no effect is daft.
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By the same token, 20mph limits replacing 30mph limits will mean a number of drivers taking notice and observing the limits.
How is that bad?
Statistically it appears to have a beneficial effect.
daugs":1a7bkko2 said:highlandsflyer":1a7bkko2 said:Suggesting speed limits have no effect is daft.
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By the same token, 20mph limits replacing 30mph limits will mean a number of drivers taking notice and observing the limits.
How is that bad?
Statistically it appears to have a beneficial effect.
I'm not suggesting speed limits have no effect, I'm suggesting that reducing them is not an effective solution (to the problem in relation to cycling and per OP spending £94m) not least as the type of motorist that respects them is probably the motorist that gives cyclists enough room, doesn't ride them into the kerb to overtake when there isn't room etc, the impatient motorist with a lack of regard or consideration is the issue.
The RoSPA site refers to the fatalities and injuries but the emphasis seems to be to reduce pedestrian statistics with cyclists getting an "also" mention, the policy quoted refers to 20 mph zone that are designed to reduce drivers speed by physical measures, having lived on a 20mph road with speed bumps for over 10 years I can say that when Camden Council increased the measures and zones that the effect I observed was a deterioration in the areas already a 20mph zone.