The old FW Evans mountain bike reveals itself...

firedfromthecircus":lbmqr0b7 said:

Love to see these old ones.

I think a book on the early history of Mountain bikes in Britain needs to be written, with lots of pictures, and I think there are people on here with the facts and skills to do it.

Can I pre-order a copy?

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GrahamJohnWallace":ufvj058x said:

firedfromthecircus":ufvj058x said:

Love to see these old ones.

I think a book on the early history of Mountain bikes in Britain needs to be written, with lots of pictures, and I think there are people on here with the facts and skills to do it.

Can I pre-order a copy?

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The "lots of pictures" will be tricky bit as most people were too busy riding to bother taking pictures.

Here is a list of some topics that could be covered:

*How the US mountain bikes came to Britain and who brought them here
*the history of British "Tracker" bikes
*the history of Cyclo-cross
*the history of Cycling speedway
*the history of various UK bicycle makers
*the history of British off-road bicycle design and innovation
*off-road cycling and bicycles before the mountain bike
*Bicycle infantry and military bicycles
*Roughstuff bikes and cycling
*The first UK mountain bike events
*Trials cycling and bikes

The main problems with compiling something is the time required to do things properly and to filter out the fact from the myth.

I have been intending for some time to produce a history of Highpath Bicycles which is a fascinating because no two Highpath Engineering bikes were the same and many were unique and innovative built to order prototypes. The strange thing despite dozens of these bikes being made there is virtually no information about them online.

There are a few old pre-mountain bike anecdotes here:
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GrahamJohnWallace":3e22rsk3 said:

It's also true that the Madison Ridgeback was the first mountain bike to be imported and sold in the UK in 1983, though a few UK framebuilders were making bespoke Ritchey copies as early as 1981. And the first Gary Fisher Klunker arrived in the UK in 1979. Before that you could have had a bespoke 650B Roughstuff bike made. These were similar to the US mountain bikes but with steeper frame angles, narrower tyres and drop handlebars.

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GrahamJohnWallace":3e22rsk3 said:

Though Ridgeback did also make one bi-plane fork model in 1985 the one in the picture is either from 1984 or 1983. If the chainset is original It should be a six speed freewheel Ridgeback XT model from 1984/5.

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Unclejack":1kg8vbu9 said:

far too nice for a pub bike. But, IMO.. its not an '83. My understanding is...
Evans built up 2 Ritchey bikes for the Sahara trip done late 82 by 2 gents who's names escapes me at present. . Anyway, Evans liked the look of them and commissioned Bluemells to build some. The Evans bikes were predominately grey and said Evans on the seat stay and the Saracens were black and had Saracen on. they were 501. (on a side note although 531 had been around for decades as a tube I suspect that it wasn't available in ATB at this point. Certainly Raliegh didn't have it available in sufficient quantity for their 85 bikes). Then, Nick Crane who was a cycle journo in London and had previously borrowed a bike of Geoff Apps in 81 to ride up Snowdon and then some Muddy Foxes to do the Welsh peaks June 84 was looking for a bike for his Kilimanjaro trip in December 84. He ended up getting 2 Saracens that people believe were Conquests. They weren't. He had 2 501 bikes kitted with m700. Still in black, fully lugged but now no Saracen on the seat stay top, and with the external dimple on the chainstays. They came down from Kili and later that year Saracen was sold to the Stanifords. I believe they came up with the name "Conquest" and "Kili Flyer" etc - but Stanny will confirm. Conquests were 531 and kIli flyer 501 but not fully lugged - as per Kaya's bike. I think therefore it's an 85 built by Saracen for Evans. But maybe Stanny would like to comment ?

Anyway - that aside damn nice.

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stanny":1xbkonte said:

My father Paul and uncle Rick Stanforth bought Saracen in February 1985 and by then the Conquest had been launched in 531 tubing and later that year my Dad and uncle launched the Kili Flyer with 501, I remember brainstorming the name when the Kili Flyer name was decided upon. The Evans is highly likely to be 1985, or very late 1984. Before then the ATBs had 501 tubing without the Conquest name which the Cranes took up Kilimanjaro. Their bikes had the m700 kit on but most of the 501 Saracens had Suntour gears, Dia Compe brakes and Sugino crankset.
The Evans/Saracen 531 looks great

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GeoffApps":1xbkonte said:

Saracen:
"They were first built by a company somewhere (I think) in the West Midlands. It was run by an individual and his wife (Name escapes me). When Blumels experienced a teriffic surge in sales of their MTB mudguards, they went on a spending spree, buying up quite a few companies, including Saracen. However, Blumels overstretched themselves and quite quickly went bust. The Stanforth Brothers snapped the Saracen company up, and are to be admired for the way they have stuck with the company. Monty Young, of Condor Cycles, claimed to have designed the Saracen.

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GeoffApps":1xbkonte said:

"It's quite possible that the Ridgeback was designed in the far east. The new powerhouse then was Taiwan, mainland Japan was beginning to lose supremecy. The Taiwanese were very quick to copy the American designs and offer these without decals on the international market. I never heard any whispers as to who had designed the Ridgeback.
They were actually in the London Shops late summer 1983."

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Chopper1192":5ceqlbqq said:

You mad man! Nice bike, quiet aura of sensible priced quality, some history Chucked in as well. 10 times more interesting than a GT Kristmaskrakeram or a Klein, and probably more usable to boot. Would love one myself.

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