Chopper the ex Copper
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Even at my lowly level there's too much testing. Twice last year I had to wazz in a bottle.
Chopper1192":33xy93a5 said:Even at my lowly level there's too much testing. Twice last year I had to wazz in a bottle.
Neil":cqbexpcf said:And a great way for newbies to get injured.rosstheboss":cqbexpcf said:Is there a crossfit place near you Alison? Have a look on Google - to be vague its a short sharp workout system that is great at getting you into shape quickly, kind of like circuit training.
Their rather novel approach to form needs either lots of attention to detail for newbies and careful control, or a good grounding in some key lifts and supporting musculature first.
Accept no short cuts or quick wins, achieving fitness isn't truly complex it just requires some effort and consistency rather than gimmick. And surely given where we're discussing this, most will have a reasonably close to home solution they could put to more use - ride your bike more - just little, yet incremental increase in frequency and distance would probably be the most natural step.
You seriously think WSM is clean?Chopper1192":ik786e5o said:Even at my lowly level there's too much testing. Twice last year I had to wazz in a bottle.
I don't think it's squeaky, but its not rife either. WSM finallist Josh Thigpen is a friend of mine, though he's now changing track to Olympic lifting, and he doesn't reckon it's especially prevalent, purely because so many of them compete in proper lifting when not doing strongman.Neil":1nkpoirp said:You seriously think WSM is clean?Chopper1192":1nkpoirp said:Even at my lowly level there's too much testing. Twice last year I had to wazz in a bottle.
Chopper1192":zmj6lrrb said:I don't think it's squeaky, but its not rife either. WSM finallist Josh Thigpen is a friend of mine, though he's now changing track to Olympic lifting, and he doesn't reckon it's especially prevalent, purely because so many of them compete in proper lifting when not doing strongman.Neil":zmj6lrrb said:You seriously think WSM is clean?Chopper1192":zmj6lrrb said:Even at my lowly level there's too much testing. Twice last year I had to wazz in a bottle.
Even in body building, back where I and a lot of lifters started, there's quite a sharp divide between clean athletes and users. No one pretend it doesn't go on, but the users are so easy to spot due to their physical tell-tales that there little point fibbing about it. In some areas it's progressed to the point that GH and Synthol user have their own leagues and competitions.
I'm with the GBPF and there are plenty of random 'wee in this' requests - they take you to a bathroom where all the taps are sealed off, and the toilet water is all dyed purple so there's no way you can fiddle the test. If you're selected then you stay in there til you've given a sample or you don't compete. There's also a specific drug-free British powerlifting association, the sports evangelical happy clappers. I've not come across it at my level, and I'm doubtless some clever bar steward thinks he can play the percentages like Armstrong, but for most of us the hardest thing were on is L Glutamine. A lot of detractors have never lifted anything heavier than their fork at teatime, so I don't pay too much attention to them.
rosstheboss":368esyph said:Neil":368esyph said:And a great way for newbies to get injured.rosstheboss":368esyph said:Is there a crossfit place near you Alison? Have a look on Google - to be vague its a short sharp workout system that is great at getting you into shape quickly, kind of like circuit training.
Their rather novel approach to form needs either lots of attention to detail for newbies and careful control, or a good grounding in some key lifts and supporting musculature first.
Accept no short cuts or quick wins, achieving fitness isn't truly complex it just requires some effort and consistency rather than gimmick. And surely given where we're discussing this, most will have a reasonably close to home solution they could put to more use - ride your bike more - just little, yet incremental increase in frequency and distance would probably be the most natural step.
It depends on where you go - some are very competitive, and for proper gym bunnies, others are much friendlier and more open to beginners. The ones that friends of mine have been and still go to, all have PT professionals there, so the potential to get injured is vastly reduced. The only injuries I've known of our among the most competitive friends that are training for competitions - which, having seen the sort of things they do in competitions, is absolutely no surprise. Trying to do everything faster, harder, heavier is always going to end in tears I agree.
Neil":1fd1yc79 said:WSM not rife? Are you for real?.