Can't find it, But who said Oranges were overrated bikes??

It's a emotional thing - hence mere reason will never persuade me otherwise.

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velomaniac":2tsfw5v9 said:

Never owned or ridden an orange, had little to do with them BITD but will probably give one a go one day.
Ultimately they're just a bike and how they ride is as much determined by the rider than the bike. You can build vast numbers of bikes with exactly the same geometry, spec etc but you cant yet (I worked for one of the firms involved in Dolly the Cloned sheep) make exactly the same rider to ride every example so some folk wont gel with them.

Secret_Squirrel said it best for me:

It's a emotional thing - hence mere reason will never persuade me otherwise.

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Chopper1192":37c8h3k4 said:

I am the guilty person and I present myself for a good horsewhipping!

They're good bikes, great bikes even , but they lack that certain sparkle this makes them mythical, either in terms of their position in history of when justifying an inflated asking price.

If you're after a steel framed bike to ride then you're onto a winner. If you think they're in some way any so radical, awesome or artful that they're work an asking price in excess of any other typical decent quality Steele (Pace, Alpinestars, higher end Saracen even - deletes appropriate) then your deluded.

Even today they don't have a modern product at the top of any of the individual bike categories, not by a long way, but this strange and unjustified gusset moistness at the mention of the name persists.

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