Velo you make some great points, and as a former ebike owner, I respect your opinions. The bike I rode had front suspension & disc brakes - and was capable of a comfortable 20 mph cruising speed.....so it appeared to me that the bikes are approaching decent levels of performance. Would I pay £3k for one? I doubt it, but if and when they come down in price I will definitely be interested - and this is from someone who still shoots film, still listens to analogue radio, drives an old car, rides old bikes - so ebikes were not something I thought I would ever embrace - but the experience and thrill of it all changed my mind completely - that is the point I am trying to make.