Can you question peoples religion

“If Jesus had been killed twenty years ago, Catholic school children would be wearing little electric chairs around their necks instead of crosses.”
― Lenny Bruce

Amazing to hear all the comparisons with Paganism, as if one dogma is superior to another, or more real because one adopted part of another.

greenstiles":xz3rhgps said:

I don't belive people have the right to use religion in one of these ways......... to kill , harm, or hate others.

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You mean there are other reasons for religion?

Wow! Who knew?

from flight of the phoenix

Frank Towns: Why give people false hope?
Liddle: Come on man.Most people spend their whole lives hanging on to hopes and dreams that are never going to come true but they hold on to them. Why are you going to give up on them now when you need them most?
Frank Towns: You are assuming I'm one of those people who has hopes and dreams.
Liddle: I find it hard to believe that a man who learns to fly never had a dream.
Frank Towns: Look, how can I let those people build that plane when I don't believe it will work? And, every day they waste trying to build it brings them one day closer to dying.
Liddle: I think a man only needs one thing in life. He just needs someone to love. If you can't give him that, then give him something to hope for. And if you can't give him that, just give him something to do.
[James tosses the water bottle back to Frank and walks away]
Frank Towns: James, you'll never make it.
Liddle: Then I'll die trying. There are people counting on me.
Frank Towns: Okay, Okay, Okay. Okay. We'll build it. Just come back with me

people belive in all sorts for allsorts of reasons, you should never question whether its right for them but you should question if its right for you.

The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is because vampires are allergic to bullshit.”
― Richard Pryor

theproudhighway":w44y59cd said:

I've had conversations with quite a few people with different religious beliefs. Most seem open to debate about their respective belief system. Not sure I've ever out right questioned why they believe what they believe though. Makes for interesting conversation.

I've listened to some Podcasts that claim most religions were born out of magic mushroom trips

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highlandsflyer":1tyq5x8y said:

Amazing to hear all the comparisons with Paganism, as if one dogma is superior to another, or more real because one adopted part of another.

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Pagnism is just an offshoot of animism, probably the oldest set of beliefs there is. Paganism has been used to control the masses the same as christianity, islam etc. Arguably it was only when people realised how easy it is to control other people through fear and promises that religious organisations arose.

For what it's worth I don't think anyone has said that one dogma is superior to another, anyway no-one has a clue about what actually went onto the ancient 'pagan' beliefs, the modren stuff is just tree hugging rubbish, the ancient pagans were probably beating the shit out of the next tribe over because thier soul tree was bigger than theirs.

Mistletoe was used around the solstice to cause miscarriges in any newly pregnant women, to avoid having any more mouths to feed the next winter, as usual in any religion women always seem to get the short end of a rather shitty stick.

Most faiths like politics, are the attempts of the few to control the many..but....for those being controlled most have found a way to make that a positive and do harm to no one

I believe the modern control methods are called debt, mortgages, internet and facebook

sylus":1el5fmlh said:

Out here in the badlands we often get jovie door knockers. My longest for being able to keep them at the door is 47 minutes and 35 seconds

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I too feel it is my duty to limit the ammount of people they can bother in one day, my best is only around 15minutes though so well done.

The problem with religions is that the inspirational founders become a profound embarrassment to the small minded followers who turn ideas and passin into dogma.

The founders attract and convince and the followers confront and coerce :-(

B77":ovjlt8pj said:

as usual in any religion women always seem to get the short end of a rather shitty stick.

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At least the Catholics are trying to overturn that trend.