gerryattrick":2bb1emhw said:
The right to bear arms, as specified in the Second Amendment, has been mentioned several times in this thread.
The Amendment was written more than 200 years ago when the US had just fought a war to gain its independence and referred to the importance of having a well-armed Militia to defend it when necessary.
Does anyone believe that this is necessary anymore so why should the Amendment still be relevant?
What makes you think american gun owners(which again I must point out most are legal and never assualt another human with a gun and from that number, a large amount just enjoy target/range shooting) are not in agreement with you? Most americans are painfully aware a change is needed.
You have to remember, these attacks were at american schools and were american children were attacked, not brits, not belgium not dutch but americans..yes they are aware
the right to bear arms for americans is almost entrenched say as a brits right to have free medical assistance such as the nhs. would someone in france say you brits need to do away with the nhs..brits quite rightly would tell them to poke off (and before some spanner says the nhs doesn't kill..I susggest you do some research).
Even within this forum we often have comments saying "yankee stop sticking your nose into our business" but see the same people see nothing wrong with us doing it to them? interesting
The right to bear arms will stay...what will change will be american people lead updates for the modern times and risks I am sure
Time moves on, it is time the US did on this matter, and ignored the gun lobby.
Bram quoting figures for belgium unless you are quoting them for being bored to death on flat roads or swallowing large amounts of chocolate is a waste of time, should we believe the media on every occasion we would say that a large amount of belgiums kidnap their own and other children, store them in the cellar then rape them for decades and have incestous children with them...which of course would be in correct but if you are easily media led that would be an assumption..just as wrong as every gun owner is a killer
Although the biggest danger to mankind is based in Espace Léopold
your obsession with bears is a funny one do you have many in belgium? I ask because we also mentioned wolves, coyotes, pumas and mountain lions but you keep ignoring them..share the love man share the love
as to the argument then..remote people having guns is understandable but in built up areas it is not..your joking right?? the worst kind of animal is in huge volumes in cities..are called humans
The gun ammendement is an easy fix to a problem very few want to ask about but it is only a thinly disguised viel
The same guns have been around for decades so why now is the problem on the rise
To me it's simple..the internet and bad parenting
some kids have bad or no interactive skills wth other people being alone in their bedroom all the time, being awarded a medal in their cushioned world every time they fart being told they are good when they are bad.
Then the internet, it is no suprise to me that the depression increase amoungst humans largely tallies with internet use and hiding away in pretend worlds rather than deal with the real stuff
so why don't we deal with that..the reasoning behind the murders and not the items used to do them with?
As a race humans are okay with stuff that kills them as long as they enjoy it. Alcohol in the u.k. accounts for more deaths than guns in the whole of america, so why aren't we in uproar? because it's a death rate we are comfortable with and have closed our eyes as acceptable, Passive smoking in the u.s. kills more people than were killed with guns last year but because those people enjoy it they turn a blind eye, more people died in car crashes in the u.k. than in gun incidences but yet we don't try and ban that..why not?
It's okay to seem outraged about death but we all chose modes of life that put us at risk of death every day and happily turn a blind eye to the real issues and try and blame something/someone else because it suits us.
The americans will make changes because it affects them and I am sure most americans fully understand the need for change even though some may disagree how
sorry for the long rant
