Hi All,
I have just bought a Gios torino and I have a few questions about establishing the age and confirming that the forks are correct?
At present I have no pictures but I could post some in the next day or so.
The frame has been re-painted by ARGOS and currently has their name on it on the downtube, (the previous owner had them repaint it some while ago) but I am not concerned about that as I plan to get it repainted as original.
It has the Gios torino features you would expect:
Gios rivetted on headbadge.
The top of the seat stays are the correct shape but do not have any embossed Gios names on them.
There are small drillings around the rear dropout slots.
The gear cables run above the bottom bracket.
Under the bottom bracket is embossed with 'Gios' in proper Gios script and there is '54' stamped on it which is obviously the size.
There is no other visible frame number?
Are the frames normally numbered? How else do you date them?
I have not yet removed the forks to check the fork steerer tube for stampings (will do this evening though).
The forks are my main query, they are painted (no chrome on the frame or forks) and they have a simple plain sloping crown and no embossed 'Gios' or other monogram present?
About 50mm below the crown extending about 75mm down the legs there is a section which has been 'slightly flattened' towards the rear edge? This is clearly meant to be there and is identical on both sides.
Does it seem like they are the correct Gios forks? It is possible that they were replaced at some time I guess?
Maybe they did more than 1 spec of torino frame, I know they did a 'Professional' model.
I don't want to have the forks refinished along with the frame, if I should really be looking for another pair? I would need ones with a 150mm fork tube.
I know there were several variations of forks, including the ones with the inset medallions and chrome ones with either 'Gios' or a stylised 'G/t' monogram; all with differing crown shapes.
Any ideas about which forks for which year of manufacture?
Thanks,
Nick.
I have just bought a Gios torino and I have a few questions about establishing the age and confirming that the forks are correct?
At present I have no pictures but I could post some in the next day or so.
The frame has been re-painted by ARGOS and currently has their name on it on the downtube, (the previous owner had them repaint it some while ago) but I am not concerned about that as I plan to get it repainted as original.
It has the Gios torino features you would expect:
Gios rivetted on headbadge.
The top of the seat stays are the correct shape but do not have any embossed Gios names on them.
There are small drillings around the rear dropout slots.
The gear cables run above the bottom bracket.
Under the bottom bracket is embossed with 'Gios' in proper Gios script and there is '54' stamped on it which is obviously the size.
There is no other visible frame number?
Are the frames normally numbered? How else do you date them?
I have not yet removed the forks to check the fork steerer tube for stampings (will do this evening though).
The forks are my main query, they are painted (no chrome on the frame or forks) and they have a simple plain sloping crown and no embossed 'Gios' or other monogram present?
About 50mm below the crown extending about 75mm down the legs there is a section which has been 'slightly flattened' towards the rear edge? This is clearly meant to be there and is identical on both sides.
Does it seem like they are the correct Gios forks? It is possible that they were replaced at some time I guess?
Maybe they did more than 1 spec of torino frame, I know they did a 'Professional' model.
I don't want to have the forks refinished along with the frame, if I should really be looking for another pair? I would need ones with a 150mm fork tube.
I know there were several variations of forks, including the ones with the inset medallions and chrome ones with either 'Gios' or a stylised 'G/t' monogram; all with differing crown shapes.
Any ideas about which forks for which year of manufacture?
Thanks,
Nick.