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BTW anyone reading this who may need a new kidney or other internal organ so I could buy one of these lovely frames please contact me on 
Although it has been used for mtbs, 853 ProTeam is really for road bikes and it's a bit weedy for the kind of malarky you're liable to get up to. Even with regular 853, they could have designed the frame much lighter if they thought that was the way to go. Nothing to do with cost - a 9-6-9 tube costs the same as an 8-5-8. Most 853 mtb frames weigh c5lbs these days, as the designers go for strength and stiffness to make the best use of >100mm forks.dendy":p1p56uke said:
That's true, and it does set a higher minimum than used to be the case. Even within the CEN limits though, Cotic claim a weight of 4.4lbs for the Soul and Merlin claim 4.25 for the Rock Lobster 853. My much earlier RL 853 was spot on the claimed weight, so I would guess those claims aren't that far out. I don't think it's costing Cotic and Merlin any more (or less) to make their frames lighter though, it's just that they're working to a different design philosophy.coomber":2kw0gr82 said:
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Just to update I weighed the RC104 with the slideouts today and it comes in at 5lbs 1oz or 2296g.
On the same scales my 19" 853 Kili comp ('97) weighed 4lbs 11oz (2126g).
On the same scales my 19" 853 Kili comp ('97) weighed 4lbs 11oz (2126g).
firedfromthecircus":1n0wgcbf said:
There are similarities between the pace and the kili so nigh on identical weight is no surprise.
Changing subject a little - are you sure your kili comp is a 97? 19" 97 should weigh approx 1980g and the same frame for 98 was made with 80mm travel in mind so therefore a touch heavier. My 19" 98 853 kili weighs 2070g.
magas":1n0wgcbf said:very lovely frame, looking forward seeing it getting build
Cheers Martin
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dendy":25ietqnl said:
Ah, well, no. I'm not sure it is a '97.
It is a wishbone frame but without the fatter strengthening section your one has. Believed 853 and it's an orangey/red colour. Ritchey dropouts. :?:
Could be my scales though.
Long time since they were calibrated. That would also make the Pace lighter if they are out though. That was the only reason I posted the weight of the Kili on the same scales as I knew you would have a term of reference.
