The user known as Barman1

The Ken":2uuh2vkv said:
Just a thought, if you paid paypal as a gift should you really tell them you were actually buying things?

Correct. No
 
Is there anyway around that though?

Just play dumb and say he asked for gift - i thought gift was secure etc.
 
Here is the details of the email I was sent, tracing the IP looks to indicate Douglas on the Isle of Man. Hope that helps somehow.

x-store-info:SmXCjkY1Un5L3qlTmewTw2528Vzv4BD3oVwPqvwx6IvjjEdpJLuHYf1z7fFuZfkvvOeZfJqITKsd5Mg2YQzjKTSqBuY0hDFdno1pDTAEdjhFcuZxi4uIFg==
Authentication-Results: hotmail.com; sender-id=pass (sender IP is 65.55.116.76) header.from=Ciaramarycoyle@hotmail.co.uk; dkim=neutral header.d=hotmail.co.uk; x-hmca=pass
X-Message-Status: n:0:n
X-SID-PRA: Ciara <Ciaramarycoyle@hotmail.co.uk>
X-SID-Result: Pass
X-AUTH-Result: PASS
X-Message-Delivery: Vj0xLjE7dXM9MDtsPTE7YT0xO0Q9MDtHRD0wO1NDTD0w
X-Message-Info: AuEzbeVr9u6ITJ84TuOjIrhEdcW/3eQryCzixpw3OG6l324Pml/VYDPe6GX3ays287r1xmF3FCEZ3l6PMEWNmctgTfOT/S+BiPrehhRVzBPxash55oBamiHMHTZrq1FVUSviU3SHCWI=
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X-Originating-IP: [2.25.132.85]
X-Originating-Email: [ciaramarycoyle@hotmail.co.uk]
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Subject: Re: Derailleurs
References: <BLU152-ds6BD13EF3183C280E0C47CE9DE0@phx.gbl>
From: Ciara <Ciaramarycoyle@hotmail.co.uk>
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Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:30:25 +0000
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buccy":ntaue0op said:
Here is the details of the email I was sent, tracing the IP looks to indicate Douglas on the Isle of Man. Hope that helps somehow.

x-store-info:SmXCjkY1Un5L3qlTmewTw2528Vzv4BD3oVwPqvwx6IvjjEdpJLuHYf1z7fFuZfkvvOeZfJqITKsd5Mg2YQzjKTSqBuY0hDFdno1pDTAEdjhFcuZxi4uIFg==
Authentication-Results: hotmail.com; sender-id=pass (sender IP is 65.55.116.76) header.from=Ciaramarycoyle@hotmail.co.uk; dkim=neutral header.d=hotmail.co.uk; x-hmca=pass
X-Message-Status: n:0:n
X-SID-PRA: Ciara <Ciaramarycoyle@hotmail.co.uk>
X-SID-Result: Pass
X-AUTH-Result: PASS
X-Message-Delivery: Vj0xLjE7dXM9MDtsPTE7YT0xO0Q9MDtHRD0wO1NDTD0w
X-Message-Info: AuEzbeVr9u6ITJ84TuOjIrhEdcW/3eQryCzixpw3OG6l324Pml/VYDPe6GX3ays287r1xmF3FCEZ3l6PMEWNmctgTfOT/S+BiPrehhRVzBPxash55oBamiHMHTZrq1FVUSviU3SHCWI=
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X-Originating-IP: [2.25.132.85]
X-Originating-Email: [ciaramarycoyle@hotmail.co.uk]
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Tue, 8 Nov 2011 08:35:14 -0800
Subject: Re: Derailleurs
References: <BLU152-ds6BD13EF3183C280E0C47CE9DE0@phx.gbl>
From: Ciara <Ciaramarycoyle@hotmail.co.uk>
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Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:30:25 +0000
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X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2011 16:35:16.0690 (UTC) FILETIME=[6598C320]
What are you searching for, there, 'cos I still get Leeds (Orange as the broadband provider).
 
Yep sorry you are right! Looking at the electoral roll found this:
Ciara M Coyle
Age Guide: 16-20
Harrogate, North Yorkshire, HG1
Close enough to leeds to fit???


Neil":3cl4beqr said:
buccy":3cl4beqr said:
Here is the details of the email I was sent, tracing the IP looks to indicate Douglas on the Isle of Man. Hope that helps somehow.

x-store-info:SmXCjkY1Un5L3qlTmewTw2528Vzv4BD3oVwPqvwx6IvjjEdpJLuHYf1z7fFuZfkvvOeZfJqITKsd5Mg2YQzjKTSqBuY0hDFdno1pDTAEdjhFcuZxi4uIFg==
Authentication-Results: hotmail.com; sender-id=pass (sender IP is 65.55.116.76) header.from=Ciaramarycoyle@hotmail.co.uk; dkim=neutral header.d=hotmail.co.uk; x-hmca=pass
X-Message-Status: n:0:n
X-SID-PRA: Ciara <Ciaramarycoyle@hotmail.co.uk>
X-SID-Result: Pass
X-AUTH-Result: PASS
X-Message-Delivery: Vj0xLjE7dXM9MDtsPTE7YT0xO0Q9MDtHRD0wO1NDTD0w
X-Message-Info: AuEzbeVr9u6ITJ84TuOjIrhEdcW/3eQryCzixpw3OG6l324Pml/VYDPe6GX3ays287r1xmF3FCEZ3l6PMEWNmctgTfOT/S+BiPrehhRVzBPxash55oBamiHMHTZrq1FVUSviU3SHCWI=
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X-Originating-Email: [ciaramarycoyle@hotmail.co.uk]
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Subject: Re: Derailleurs
References: <BLU152-ds6BD13EF3183C280E0C47CE9DE0@phx.gbl>
From: Ciara <Ciaramarycoyle@hotmail.co.uk>
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In-Reply-To: <BLU152-ds6BD13EF3183C280E0C47CE9DE0@phx.gbl>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:30:25 +0000
To:
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X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A334)
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2011 16:35:16.0690 (UTC) FILETIME=[6598C320]
What are you searching for, there, 'cos I still get Leeds (Orange as the broadband provider).
 
1st post updated to include crime ref and buccy's details. If you've just started here please read that post first.

Not sure as trying to find address / location based off IP is awfully useful here. Best take your complaint to the relevant authorities.

Paying for goods using paypal gift is against their terms and conditions.
 
John":36g9kuch said:
Not sure as trying to find address / location based off IP is awfully useful here. Best take your complaint to the relevant authorities.
Makes it (originating IP address) available in the thread for all the scammed people to be able to reference.

I'd agree, trying to conclude name and address may be a bit fruitless / blunt tool / charcoal vague, but having the full header of emails available for all who need, plus the ISP details may be of use?
 
There is NO way anyone is going to be 'banged up" for this.

The guilty party is going to be reading this, so perhaps they should weigh in and explain themselves and let it all resolve.

What are we talking about, £500 of gear?

Do we really want to be jailing people for £500?
 
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